Presidential candidate discussion for 2016

Eventhorizon said:
Sure. So long as the thread doesnt devolve into a political brawl as has been known to happen ummm forever. So things like memes making a candidate look stupid isnt really the direction I would hope a serious discussion would take.
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fair enough - and if you want me to edit the title i can, just thought the OP should have been a little more specific.
 
Sriracha said:
Inflammatory posts that are memes. I have googled the quote and found it to be no where. It's up to the OP to decide if he wants discussion of all candidates. I'm not interested in hearing peoples one liner opinion that they pulled somewhere off the internet when I see that all day on my Facebook. There is no meat to the bone and too much bias. I consider myself to be an objective human being, and want facts ... and at the same time I don't want to hear resurrected muir conspiracy theories. lol
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That was from the last debate on Fox…didn’t you watch it?
I’m sure youtube has the whole thing…I’m not going to cue it up for you.
I’m not into conspiracy theories either, everything you have said about my opinion I feel and think about Trump and the GOP.
So…no one’s opinion is superior here…if you don’t like what I say, just ignore me, that’s what adults do…especially when I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place.
I happen to think that Trump will run this nation into the ground, except you can’t file bankruptcy and have Dad bail you out.
Everything I just said is factual, I will provide links if you like.
So my view doesn’t fit into your bubble therefore it is incorrect?
That is a fallacious way to live one’s life.
 
Skarekrow said:
That was from the last debate on Fox…didn’t you watch it?
I’m sure youtube has the whole thing…I’m not going to cue it up for you.
I’m not into conspiracy theories either, everything you have said about my opinion I feel and think about Trump and the GOP.
So…no one’s opinion is superior here…if you don’t like what I say, just ignore me, that’s what adults do…especially when I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place.
I happen to think that Trump will run this nation into the ground, except you can’t file bankruptcy and have Dad bail you out.
Everything I just said is factual, I will provide links if you like.
So my view doesn’t fit into your bubble therefore it is incorrect?
That is a fallacious way to live one’s life.
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Done here. Have fun arguing with yourself.
 
Sriracha said:
Done here. Have fun arguing with yourself.
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That just blows my mind that because I happen to like a different Presidential candidate that you are shunning me.
I wasn’t arguing, I just provided the info requested.
Amazing.

And yet…I don’t jump on people when they talk shit about the politics that I might adhere to.
We can all have an opinion about who would make a good leader for this nation.
If you tell me I can’t have an opinion then I’m glad “done here” is what happened, I would rather talk to someone who doesn’t think I have to think like them.
 
Skarekrow said:
That was from the last debate on Fox…didn’t you watch it?
I’m sure youtube has the whole thing…I’m not going to cue it up for you.
I’m not into conspiracy theories either, everything you have said about my opinion I feel and think about Trump and the GOP.
So…no one’s opinion is superior here…if you don’t like what I say, just ignore me, that’s what adults do…especially when I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place.
I happen to think that Trump will run this nation into the ground, except you can’t file bankruptcy and have Dad bail you out.
Everything I just said is factual, I will provide links if you like.
So my view doesn’t fit into your bubble therefore it is incorrect?
That is a fallacious way to live one’s life.
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Lets be serious for a second. Thinking that Trump will run the country in the ground is nothing more than speculation, opinion and your attempt to get people to think a certain way about him.
"Doesn't fit into your bubble..." thats a statement full of venom. Suggesting that someone has a closed mind before you have any reason to believe it.
But you are right, I have found that block works very well. I just have to remind myself to put it on and leave it on. Yeah...Trump will run the country into the ground huh? Its not like be can possibly do any better at that then where Democrat policy has put us today. Its impossible to deny that because we live in the world where thats happened. A President that was supposed to unite people who has done exactly the opposite.
So block stays on and I make sure not remove it regarding anything you say in the thread. Have at.
 
rawr said:
fair enough - and if you want me to edit the title i can, just thought the OP should have been a little more specific.
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Interesting. I find the "offer" to change the title of my thread slightly offesnsive. As if I did not know what I wanted it to be when I created it.
 
Sriracha said:
(Not that you didn't know this specifically) I think it's important to note that DHS (homeland Security) is our immigration enforcement.

"The Trump Act" (http://www.westernjournalism.com/th...a-landslide-and-obama-doesnt-like-it-one-bit/) was passed by the house which "forces local law enforcement agencies to notify Immigration and Customs Enforcement if they have an illegal immigrant in custody; otherwise, certain federal law enforcement grants would be withheld." Obama doesn't like this bill, if he vetoes it then candidates who have not solidified a stance on this issue will have to come out of the closet with their opinion. Looking at candidates IS putting the cart before the horse. We want to know who will put up or who will shut up.
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I probably should have been a bit more specific. I like what he is saying in regards to building up the military and concentrating on defeating terrorists.

I don't think his ideas on immigrantion are practical. There are better ways to do this so that everyone wins (will write more about it when I get a chance).
 
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ezra said:
What's so wrong with socialism?
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Its a failed ideal, it doesn't work. I personally see it as taking away people's freedom and choice. People can live that way but I dont want to and I think the vast majority that sit down and take a look at what it actually entails would not want to live that way either. Most just look at the sugar coating but never ask whats benith it.

I could go over some very basic explaintion but youll get better more in depth information if you search online. Just make sure you find an unbiased source if you do look. Its actually very difficult for some reason.
 
ezra said:
What's so wrong with socialism?
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Seeing as how EH has me censored then he shouldn’t mind me responding to you.
Nothing is wrong with it, in fact, most of our nation runs on socialized programs.
There are many successful socialized democracies that are more democratic than our current process.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Its a failed ideal, it doesn't work. I personally see it as taking away people's freedom and choice. People can live that way but I dont want to and I think the vast majority that sit down and take a look at what it actually entails would not want to live that way either. Most just look at the sugar coating but never ask whats benith it.

I could go over some very basic explaintion but youll get better more in depth information if you search online. Just make sure you find an unbiased source if you do look. Its actually very difficult for some reason.
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It works pretty well in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Strong economies, high standard of living and a highly educated mass of people.
 
ezra said:
It works pretty well in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Strong economies, high standard of living and a highly educated mass of people.
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Are you leaving out Iceland deliberately?
 
Freedom and choice! I have the freedom to choose whether I want to use cannabis or not! In that way I can choose the luxurious freedom of incarceration! Who doesn't want to leech off the system with a roof over your head, the feeling of security being surrounded by bars to keep intruders out, gourmet meals, and all on somebody else's dime!

Freedom and choice is what it's all about, folks.
 
ezra said:
I'm a social democrat, I don't want to take away anyone's freedom?
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There are obviously varying degrees of implementation. SocialIsm takes away an individuals choice. Your measure of sucess is susceptible to propaganda reporting just like anywhere else in the world. Anyone who comes to speak out against it silenced if and when needed.
I would suspect that if you claim to be socialist thats because you dont actually understand what it means but... maybe I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you fully understand what it means and love it. In which case you and I would have a vastly different opinion on how we want to live our lives.
 
Skarekrow said:
Seeing as how EH has me censored then he shouldn’t mind me responding to you.
Nothing is wrong with it, in fact, most of our nation runs on socialized programs.
There are many successful socialized democracies that are more democratic than our current process.
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And that is why its currently failing. Massive amounts of money being injected into government programs with so little return for it.
I dont mind who you speak to. I have only asked that you tone down your responses so that you do not unnecessarily annoy people out of the discussion as you have already managed to do.
 
Eventhorizon said:
And that is why its currently failing. Massive amounts of money being injected into government programs with so little return for it.
I dont mind who you speak to. I have only asked that you tone down your responses so that you do not unnecessarily annoy people out of the discussion as you have already managed to do.
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I don’t have to tone it down, because I didn’t say or post anything that offensive in the first place.
I started my own thread on the subject so everyone can be included.
Because I can say, and speak, and write, and believe anything I want to.
You can come to my thread EH…I won’t stop you from sharing your views and opinions…my thread is uncensored and open to discuss all candidates.
 
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