The coming American civil war.

What factions will fight? Where do I enlist?
 
You mistake your opinion for fact which is a problem with most liberals.
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The problem with most conservatives is that you think racism can only be expressed overtly, which mean unless you are David Duke or a card carrying member of the KKK you aren't a racist and harbor no racist ideas. That's just plain wrong. As I have stated Trump is smarter than come right out and say "I think black people are inferior" or go around using the n-word. He knows what's polite in mainstream society. His involvement in the birther movement is not just an opinion, that is fact. You are really saying the birther movement wasn't racist? Cruz was verified not to have been born in the USA and still ran for the Republican nomination, yet somehow Obama needs to impeached because he faked his birth certificate? Get real.
 
Conservatives.. Idiots who want to conserve the United States Empire.
 
http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=14295&refid=asa

Thats a link to a citizen radio podcast where they discuss how Trump has removed the veneer of politeness in politics and has revealed the racism in the gop. Its towards the end I think, pretty interesting.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Humor is good. I have more respect for you.
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Then my life is complete!
Still, if you would indulge an idiot's query, why?
Spelling conspiracies aside, I will assume that you know well and good that you're not changing your mind, and that you won't change opposing minds, and yet week after week you continue to resurrect topics under different thread titles where you pretty much just bait liberals with not-so-subtle insults. Then when you get the angry reaction you were provoking, you dismiss and insult the opposition until the discussion is run into the ground and the thread dies down, only to start the exact same thing again a few days later. If you're not trolling, what do you call it?
 
According to the House Republicans, that's called "Legislating".
 
the said:
You need to go to jelly school.
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Jelly School. A school for certain individuals who cannot cope with themselves as
they are so nasty, ugly, and worthless so they have to complain about people ...
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who knew?
 
Sloe Djinn said:
Then my life is complete!
Still, if you would indulge an idiot's query, why?
Spelling conspiracies aside, I will assume that you know well and good that you're not changing your mind, and that you won't change opposing minds, and yet week after week you continue to resurrect topics under different thread titles where you pretty much just bait liberals with not-so-subtle insults. Then when you get the angry reaction you were provoking, you dismiss and insult the opposition until the discussion is run into the ground and the thread dies down, only to start the exact same thing again a few days later. If you're not trolling, what do you call it?
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Sir.
Life is a learning experience.

You are not an idiot. So my question is did you deliberately look past the obvious?
 
brightmoon said:
The problem with most conservatives is that you think racism can only be expressed overtly, which mean unless you are David Duke or a card carrying member of the KKK you aren't a racist and harbor no racist ideas. That's just plain wrong. As I have stated Trump is smarter than come right out and say "I think black people are inferior" or go around using the n-word. He knows what's polite in mainstream society. His involvement in the birther movement is not just an opinion, that is fact. You are really saying the birther movement wasn't racist? Cruz was verified not to have been born in the USA and still ran for the Republican nomination, yet somehow Obama needs to impeached because he faked his birth certificate? Get real.
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Uh huh. A problem with you liberals is not understanding what racism is. Its easy enough. Just look at the dictionaries definition. Not your own, not what you want it to be, the ACTUAL definition.
And please.... seriously. .. dont try to label me. I am not a conservative. Mkay?
 
Eventhorizon said:
Uh huh. A problem with you liberals is not understanding what racism is. Its easy enough. Just look at the dictionaries definition. Not your own, not what you want it to be, the ACTUAL definition.
And please.... seriously. .. dont try to label me. I am not a conservative. Mkay?
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I will post this video over and over and over again ... doubtful anyone who has an open mind to look past their own ideology will care to look at it.

Skip to 3:53 if you want the explanation of racism in political parties...

[video=youtube;hwqhoVIh65k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqhoVIh65k[/video]
 
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doubtful anyone who has an open mind to look past their own ideology will care to look at it.
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I watched all of it.

Bill Whittle? I've never heard of him. Anyway this video contains a TON of historical inaccuracies, clearly his person has not studied history very closely.

(1) "The Democrats in the news media *whisper* They're all Democrats." Last time I checked Fox News is the most watched television news channel in America and Roger Ailes is not a Democrat. This is something right wingers love to do, complain about the liberal media, but what was true 40 years ago isn't true today. There are plenty of Conservative voices everywhere, on talk radio, on Fox, on the internet constantly beating the drum for the cause.

(2) Fascism is Socialism and Socialism is Fascism. This so called theory based on misreading of history. Fascism is a radical form of authoritarian nationalism based on populism. Fascism's economic basis was monopoly capitalism and any pretext they made to being socialist or calling themselves socialist was empty rhetoric. Even a casual reading of history will tell you that no German industrialist (who wasn't Jewish) lost their business holding under the Nazis and that the vast majority of them supported the Nazis (because they feared Communism). Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders were high on the Nazis "hit list" for political prisoners and many died in concentration camps. The ultra rich families in Germany and Italy thrived under fascism and came out unscathed after the war was over.

(3) Republicans are the party of Lincoln and support black people while Democrats are racist. This argument conveniently ignores the last 50 years of history. Ever since FDR and The New Deal, a realignment occured. The Democrats favoured the intervention of the federal government and increasing civil rights. Racist Democrats,the so called Dixiecrats based in South broke with their party, ran a third party in 1948, the candidates name was Strom Thurmond, one of the most deeply racist politicians in the US. Thurmond and many other Dixiecrats later became Republicans because the Democratic Party made them feel unwelcome. So the Republican Party abandoned its historical roots and became the party of "states rights" and opposed any federal government intervention which many in Black community saw a betrayal, because it was the federal government that ended slavery and ended Jim Crow. Its no wonder the ideology of Goldwater Conservatism has no appeal for them.

(4) Martin Luther King as a Republican?? Laughable.

Here is MLKs view of Goldwater:

" The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.

Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy. (MLK, from his autobiography)

How about MLK on Reagan:

"When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events."

In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.”

I guess there's good I've never heard of Bill Whittle, he doesn't even get basic historical facts straight.
 
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..dont try to label me. I am not a conservative. Mkay
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Okay for future reference, can your opinions be classified?
 
civ·il
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    of or relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.
    "civil aviation"
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    courteous and polite.
    "we tried to be civil to him"



 
brightmoon said:
......this video contains a TON of historical inaccuracies
........... doesn't even get basic historical facts straight.
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Thank you for watching it and the above critique.

It is normal and necessary in a viable democratic society for there to be powerful and competing points of view.
While it is clear to most liberals that the GOP employs a strategy of paranoia, mainly based on fear of non whites and homosexuality, to get candidates elected it is also true that most liberals believe those who vote for the GOP who are not in the upper tax brackets are stupid. Believing in the stupidity of vast swathes of the electorate is counter productive.
 
[MENTION=1939]Stu[/MENTION] I said nothing about the stupidity of GOP voters. I have no issue with people having different opinions. What I have issue with is "inventing facts" to support their opinions. Claiming MLK was a Republican is an example. MLK was not a Republican and anyone who has studied history knows this. Yet here is a guy like Bill Whittle claiming it to be true and then people just start accepting it like it was true.

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Sir.
Life is a learning experience.

You are not an idiot. So my question is did you deliberately look past the obvious?
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It’s pretty obvious...that’s why you and I don’t talk like we used to *leans his head on your shoulder*.
 
Stu said:
Thank you for watching it and the above critique.

It is normal and necessary in a viable democratic society for there to be powerful and competing points of view.
While it is clear to most liberals that the GOP employs a strategy of paranoia, mainly based on fear of non whites and homosexuality, to get candidates elected it is also true that most liberals believe those who vote for the GOP who are not in the upper tax brackets are stupid. Believing in the stupidity of vast swathes of the electorate is counter productive.
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Agreed. Which is why I believe the vast majority of liberals are not ignorant, simply uninformed and sometimes deliberately so.
 
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