Trump will win again

Drumpf will either die soon or come down with some sort of ailment that will take him out of the political game largely.
I don't celebrate other people's suffering, but I am going to celebrate the fuck out of that shit.
Fucking trash.
 
larry806q said:
Ah yes, losing the argument so fall back on insulting the oppositions intelligence! It has taken longer than it probably should have but it finally has happened. The right has finally figured out the lefts tactics.....they are now just tiresome but hey, it was worth a try....
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Full-blown pathetic.

Anyway, 57, consider referencing an allegation in The Steele Dossier that you believe is true.

Rational discourse ain't happening.
 
Oh and right-o, it is too hard for me to read.

Yeah, that's it.
 
Wyote said:
Drumpf will either die soon or come down with some sort of ailment that will take him out of the political game largely.
I don't celebrate other people's suffering, but I am going to celebrate the fuck out of that shit.
Fucking trash.
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Trump's style is sometimes just plain bad. No doubt about it.

However, Biden turned out to be the alternative.

Ya got any goods on him? It's real easy. His inappropriate touching of young girls during photo ops (when my daughters were young, I would not have let them near him). His plagiarism. His racist comments. Son Hunter's laptop. Hey, since when is sex with an underage woman OK? Or his meth addiction. Just totally depraved.

Or is Biden's "style" off the table? Seems so. Why is that?
 
o2b said:
Trump's style is sometimes just plain bad. No doubt about it.

However, Biden turned out to be the alternative.

Ya got any goods on him? It's real easy. His inappropriate touching of young girls during photo ops (when my daughters were young, I would not have let them near him). His plagiarism. His racist comments. Son Hunter's laptop. Hey, since when is sex with an underage woman OK? Or his meth addiction. Just totally depraved.

Or is Biden's "style" off the table? Seems so. Why is that?
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As you are about to find out, arguing with this crowd, as has and will be proven again, is POINTLESS! ALL of the points you brought up were caused/manufactured by: Trump/KKK/White Supremacy/White Privilege/Racism/Sexism/biased media/photoshop/you hallucinating/the list goes on and on. Socialism is GREAT (yet NO ONE moves to Venezuela/Cuba/China) The right is the KKK (even though Democrats started and maintained the KKK). The GOP hates blacks (even though on most of the Amendments to the Constitution to improve blacks lives had either no or very very little Democrat support). Biden won the election! (so why are the Democrats trying so hard to stop the Maricopa County investigation into the election results?) Pipelines are terrible! (only in America if they are in Russia they are wonderful).

Biden's "style" is not off the table, you and the right wing press just made that shit up! Hunter's laptop was Trumps doing with the Russians help. Hunter isn't addicted to meth (show picture of Hunter straight and in a suit here), And what leftist approved media outlet can you "document" that someone (Hunter) had sex with underage children? Biden hasn't said anything racist....you just
CHOSE to hear it that way. Why is that? Pulease.....we said so.........

In 3.....2.....1.......
 
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You can take the red pill or you can take the blue pill.

BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL! BLUE PILL!
 
I am crushed. you guys are so good at this. wow.
but seriously, just read the russia part of the mueller report.
 
57,

I'll try to muster the desire, but this really does not seem to me a just exchange.

How about if I dig into that report and you share what on The Steele Dossier you allege to be true?
 
@o2b I really do not want to argue about the Steele Dossier, I do know that it freaked John McCain out and he was not only a major hawk, russophobe and (BTW) a GOP candidate for president. Here is a great link to an article about the dossier https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective
I read thru the first couple of pages, I had read it when it came out...here are a few high lights...but it is important to remember that Mueller did not base his investigation on Steele's reporting.
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57,

Thanks. I think this is the first time you actually responded to something asked.

In a former life, I used to "argue apologetics" in a Christian forum. Conditional immortality versus unconditional. Sabbath versus Sunday. Trinity versus some other view of the godhead. And so on.

I did not feel like the exchanges were just. Persons of the contrasting view of my own would offer a couple Bible passages as support for their interpretation. I would respond point by point. And then offer passages of my own. They would completely ignore my offerings and add more passages. I got to the point that I actually referenced every single one of these events.

1. How many times I offered passages with explanation.
2. How many times they were responded to.
3. How many times they offered passages with explanation.
4. How many times I responded to them,

The result was a STENCH.

This thread is exactly the same, save your last post for which I am thankful.

How may times did I ask you to reference anything from The Steele Dossier that you think is truthful? Three times, perhaps? How many times did you reply on point? ZERO.

Is this dialoguing for masochists? Is that what this is about?

larry has offered support for his claims. Where are the responses? ZERO.

Especially coming from an INFJ where I would hope the person would have some level of respect for another person, but no.

Meanwhile, you mentioned The Mueller Report a few times. Now, you may not have appreciated the veracity of my posts, but I did post! A number of times.
 
But, I have an idea. Can we hone in on ONE TOPIC and really drill down?

I would love to talk about Mike Flynn. Seriously.

Just to see how it goes. With a just dialogue instead of this bullshit.
 
o2b said:
57,

Thanks. I think this is the first time you actually responded to something asked.

In a former life, I used to "argue apologetics" in a Christian forum. Conditional immortality versus unconditional. Sabbath versus Sunday. Trinity versus some other view of the godhead. And so on.

I did not feel like the exchanges were just. Persons of the contrasting view of my own would offer a couple Bible passages as support for their interpretation. I would respond point by point. And then offer passages of my own. They would completely ignore my offerings and add more passages. I got to the point that I actually referenced every single one of these events.

1. How many times I offered passages with explanation.
2. How many times they were responded to.
3. How many times they offered passages with explanation.
4. How many times I responded to them,

The result was a STENCH.

This thread is exactly the same, save your last post for which I am thankful.

How may times did I ask you to reference anything from The Steele Dossier that you think is truthful? Three times, perhaps? How many times did you reply on point? ZERO.

Is this dialoguing for masochists? Is that what this is about?

larry has offered support for his claims. Where are the responses? ZERO.

Especially coming from an INFJ where I would hope the person would have some level of respect for another person, but no.

Meanwhile, you mentioned The Mueller Report a few times. Now, you may not have appreciated the veracity of my posts, but I did post! A number of times.
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I am not sure what you are talking about but you asked me for ONE THING in the Steele Dossier that I ALLEGE to be true. I posted ONE THING that is true, namely that Steele reported that the GRU was running a cyber operation against the Clinton campaign. Turns out there is tons of stuff in the steele dossier that is true, stuff that is plausible and not proven and stuff that is false as it is riddled with Russian disinformation.

You accuse me of not doing what you asked and dismissed my post as non existent.
I find folks like you beyond annoying and will return to simply snarking at your alleged objectivity.
 
Well, 57, then I owe you an apology. I am sorry. I honestly missed you saying one thing about the dossier.

But, my main point still remains. Where is your reply to larry's post on The Mueller Report? Why was it ignored?

A lot of that is going on here.
 
I certainly realize that not only do "facts" (which include falsehoods) need to be documented and that documentation has to be from an approved source, including whether it has a proven track record of providing b.s. or not. In most cases the dubious sources are more creditable than factual ones.
My latest source is Rolling Stone, anyone, as in ANYONE, who tries to make the case that publication is a right wing conspiracy pusher need not be taken seriously or responded to for any reason.
They did publish a SUPERB article that explains all of this VERY well.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...t-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

It is not a real long read and it is again very well done.

Larry
 
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Let's assume the Trump peeing on prostitutes and the Carter Page is a Russia spy allegations are complete fictions. This including the allegations around Rosneft where there was absolutely no paper trail that could support the financial exchange of ~13 billion dollars.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...cerpt_from_carter_pages_abuse_and_power.html#!
The agents asked me about the Democrats’ false allegations that I had received a stake in Rosneft. I replied that I obviously had not. I added that to the best of my knowledge, the only group other than the government of Qatar who had mixed politics with Rosneft was a commodity trading company named Glencore and its associates. In December 2016, Glencore had publicly announced the very same deal that I had been falsely accused of by the Democrats, the media, and the U.S. Intelligence Community. Coincidentally, Glencore was founded by Marc Rich—the late donor to the Clinton Library and international fugitive pardoned by President Clinton on his last day in office. Even the New York Times had called the decision “An Indefensible Pardon.”

...

Our fourth pre-scheduled meeting was at the Hilton Manhattan East Hotel on the afternoon of Thursday, March 30, 2017. They peppered me with questions about a Rosneft employee I had known for a decade, since his years as a junior capital markets staffer at Gazprom. I told the FBI that we had never discussed anything remotely secret or politically sensitive. I had seen this young man, Andrey Baranov, at a party held by one of the banks in Moscow on my July 2016 trip. Two longtime acquaintances briefly catching up, we did little more than exchange pleasantries. To give the agents an idea of what I was up against, I told them how Obama’s former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, had started live-tweeting during my NES speech. He became a key node of the network trying to make the false case against me.

Every time the FBI agents asked a question, I would answer it and then try to remind the agents of the fraudulent sources behind these ridiculous allegations. That of course didn’t break through. Unbeknownst to me, and as America would learn years later, I wasn’t telling the agents anything they weren’t already aware of.
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Here is an example where having an iota's worth of street smarts comes into play. OK, so the pee thing is 100% fabrication. As is Rosneft.

McFly! McFly!

So, how does a man (Steele) who is paid to be a sleuth get the above wrong to the point of writing about it and using it as partial justification for his narrative?

Answer: He doesn't. He didn't get anything wrong. HE LIED!!!

To think otherwise is to be either ignorant or to have an astonishing lack of street smarts.

You know...the kind of person whose heart races when he realizes the financial killing he is going to enjoy after buying the Brooklyn Bridge.
 
larry806q said:
I certainly realize that not only do "facts" (which include falsehoods) need to be documented and that documentation has to be from an approved source, including whether it has a proven track record of providing b.s. or not. In most cases the dubious sources are more creditable than factual ones.
My latest source is Rolling Stone, anyone, as in ANYONE, who tries to make the case that publication is a right wing conspiracy pusher need not be taken seriously or responded to for any reason.
They did publish a SUPERB article that explains all of this VERY well.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...t-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

It is not a real long read and it is again very well done.

Larry
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From that article:
The so-called “Steele dossier” was, actually, crucial to the FBI’s decision to seek secret surveillance of Page.

(The article had this in bold font.)

Robert McCabe testified he could not have gotten the FISA warrent without The Steele Dossier.
 
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