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larry806q said:
PULEASE......large font AND highlighted! It must be true. I am not typing the same reply over again just for you (please don't be offended). Please refer to post #1358 of this thread to see why your LARGE FONT HIGHLIGHTED URL and quotes are also invalid. ONE PARTY CAN NOT, ON THEIR OWN COUNT THE F&^%$ING ballots in private by themselves! IT IS ILLEGAL (in ALL states). It just doesn't matter in Illinois. Pennsylvania and Michigan. Looks like it is going to possibly matter in Arizona.

Why do you folks even think it is a good idea (other than your guy "won" (I use the term as loosely as it can be used) this time). So how about in 2024 since you think it is neat that Democrats are all good counting ballots after hours in private by themselves we afford the Republicans the SAME (i.e.SAME) courtesy in 2024! Good for the goose good for the gander? Somehow your hypocrisy will be on full display on that suggestion.
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Not sure where you got the impression that the Democratic party was in charge of counting the votes in GA or AZ. I doubt you really think that but you seem to be stating it.
I tried to find anything about election judges and vote counting in the link to the GA 2010 law that I had posted and came up with only thiscounting.jpg https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-21/chapter-2/article-11/part-1/21-2-408/
It says a "poll watcher ,may be permitted" [my italics] ...this is a crucial aspect of all of these poll watcher arguments.
 
FiftySeven said:
Not sure where you got the impression that the Democratic party was in charge of counting the votes in GA or AZ. I doubt you really think that but you seem to be stating it.
I tried to find anything about election judges and vote counting in the link to the GA 2010 law that I had posted and came up with only thisView attachment 81324 https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-21/chapter-2/article-11/part-1/21-2-408/
It says a "poll watcher ,may be permitted" [my italics] ...this is a crucial aspect of all of these poll watcher arguments.
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1. Is English your first language? Are you dyslexic (sincerely, that is not a shot at you)? At least when I type these posts and go back and read them they are in English and I will concede obviously I am the one that wrote them but, they seem rather clear to me. The Democratic party WAS in charge of counting the votes in Georgia and Arizona (which is why the Democrats are fighting so hard to stop the re-counts). No, I did not state or infer (as far as I am concerned) that point in the initial post. In the case of Georgia regardless of who may or may not have been in charge, when the Democrats tell the Republicans everything is done for the night - the Republicans being awfully naive, leave and the Democrats go, well know we can keep on counting - by default puts them in charge/control - THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THE BUILDING!

And this highlight unrelated material and then blow it up as big as you can I don't actually mean offense but I am sure this will come across as offensive - it is just childish. A lie printed as big as the world is still a lie and the truth written in 4 point is still the truth. Further more you are making assumptions (and not reading the post) that are making yourself look bad. Justia IS NOT THE LAW. it is a website that "interprets" (kind of) and translates in english the real law - JUSTIA IS NOT THE LAW! The URL I provided was the GEORGIA LAW. You also did nto find the sections I referenced because it WASN'T THE GEORGIA LAW! Frankly I don't realy give a damn what Justia has to comment on at the moment.

57......I am not making shit up....I am sure it does say the poll WATCHER MAY watch (if it is a legitimate operation they would be WELCOME to watch). Now before I go on I'll address that point. The Democrats made up things to get the "WATCHERS" removed. However, that still does not address the poll WORKERS - which are required (you'd know that if you read the law and not rely on a source that is easy to find and confirms your position.) And if your stipulation were to be accurate (it is not) and the Democrats weren't in charge then there would have been Republican POLL WORKERS able to certify the count.

As far as your critical points on poll watchers, 1. I am not arguing about poll WATCHERS. 2. The nonsense (it is nonsense) that the poll watchers were some how throwing molotov cocktails at the workers (that is sarcasm) is indeed nonsense.
 
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this exactly proves my point. the blonde braided lady was not talking to mitchel, he was not ordered to leave. She was managing her staff. Mitchell was an imperfect observer of what was transpiring.
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Sadly you are serious. OK the obvious first question is: who it Mitchel? Nothing in your post says anything about a Mitchel. 2.What difference does it make that the blond haired lady was or was not talking to Mitchel? Regardless of who was or was not ordered to do anything the uncontested reality is that the only people in the building counting ballots that night were DEMOCRATS (NOT LEGAL). AND if the folks were TOLD: TO STOP COUNTING AND COME BACK TOMORROW, WHY DID THE FOUR OF THEM CONTINUE TO COUNT VOTES?

1. You have no point to make. 2. THIS MOST CERTAINLY DOES NOT "MAKE" OR CONFIRM ANY POINT YOU MAY BE TRYING TO MAKE THAT FOUR DEMOCRATS COUNTING VOTES BY THEMSELVES IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT IS LEGAL. To say nothing of ethically or morally OK.
 
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Here is an alarming point of view
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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288
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Sadly, yet again you are serious. Disabled people? The Jews were typically not disabled until the Nazi's got a hold of them.You can document (this is a joke - the initial post) the probably's and the maybe's and the you think's? To say nothing of the status of the original poster in the first place.

This doesn't have enough real information in it to even dis-credit it, it dis-credits itself.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...r-provide-health-care-to-the-elderly-n2561500
(Bloomberg ran for president as a DEMOCRAT)

https://startthinkingright.wordpres...-vote-to-let-elderly-die-in-name-of-stimulus/

https://slate.com/technology/2005/02/biology-can-solve-the-social-security-debate.html

https://www.econlib.org/the-case-for-european-health-care/

https://www.all.org/obama-to-elderly-die/

https://www.gopusa.com/biden-advisor-elderly-should-be-first-to-die-last-to-live/

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/30...lieve-that-humans-are-a-plague-upon-the-earth

The last link is probably the best. All of those links are to facilitate anyone who chooses to see that it is indeed Democrats and NOT Republicans wanted to stop providing funds to the elderly.
 
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57,

I lost much attraction to this discussion with your complete lack of significance to the idea that eyewitness testimony of folks is important enough to have a look at.

I can only conclude you believe it is unimportant and so your methodology for truth-seeking is a train-wreck.
 
larry806q said:
Sadly, yet again you are serious. Disabled people? The Jews were typically not disabled until the Nazi's got a hold of them.You can document (this is a joke - the initial post) the probably's and the maybe's and the you think's? To say nothing of the status of the original poster in the first place.

This doesn't have enough real information in it to even dis-credit it, it dis-credits itself.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...r-provide-health-care-to-the-elderly-n2561500
(Bloomberg ran for president as a DEMOCRAT)

https://startthinkingright.wordpres...-vote-to-let-elderly-die-in-name-of-stimulus/

https://slate.com/technology/2005/02/biology-can-solve-the-social-security-debate.html

https://www.econlib.org/the-case-for-european-health-care/

https://www.all.org/obama-to-elderly-die/

https://www.gopusa.com/biden-advisor-elderly-should-be-first-to-die-last-to-live/

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/30...lieve-that-humans-are-a-plague-upon-the-earth

The last link is probably the best. All of those links are to facilitate anyone who chooses to see that it is indeed Democrats and NOT Republicans wanted to stop providing funds to the elderly.
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Not to be overly argumenative but the Nazis did other fucked up shit as well as the attempted elimination of European Jewry. Euthanizing the disabled is a documented crime they committed.(https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...hmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program

as for the website Justia, they seem like a legit site, honestly I was just looking for the texts of the GA law so we could discuss it, I was not trying to trick anybody. You do seem to be saying that people who work for the various municipalities counting votes are partisans, that if they engage in politics out side their job they are not to be trusted. This is a radical departure from what is standard practice in America. You do realize that , don't you?
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https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2021/07/25
 
FiftySeven said:
Not to be overly argumenative but the Nazis did other fucked up shit as well as the attempted elimination of European Jewry. Euthanizing the disabled is a documented crime they committed.(https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...hmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program

as for the website Justia, they seem like a legit site, honestly I was just looking for the texts of the GA law so we could discuss it, I was not trying to trick anybody. You do seem to be saying that people who work for the various municipalities counting votes are partisans, that if they engage in politics out side their job they are not to be trusted. This is a radical departure from what is standard practice in America. You do realize that , don't you?
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As O2b just posted this has gone past silly. I don't SEEM to be saying anything except when you can mis-construe it to make yet another invalid point. No, I just posted what I realize - tis is past silly.
 
larry806q said:
Sadly you are serious. OK the obvious first question is: who it Mitchel? Nothing in your post says anything about a Mitchel. 2.What difference does it make that the blond haired lady was or was not talking to Mitchel? Regardless of who was or was not ordered to do anything the uncontested reality is that the only people in the building counting ballots that night were DEMOCRATS (NOT LEGAL). AND if the folks were TOLD: TO STOP COUNTING AND COME BACK TOMORROW, WHY DID THE FOUR OF THEM CONTINUE TO COUNT VOTES?

1. You have no point to make. 2. THIS MOST CERTAINLY DOES NOT "MAKE" OR CONFIRM ANY POINT YOU MAY BE TRYING TO MAKE THAT FOUR DEMOCRATS COUNTING VOTES BY THEMSELVES IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT IS LEGAL. To say nothing of ethically or morally OK.
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I think any attempt to be objective and impartial requires watching the hearings of the eyewitnesses giving evidence that was also part of signed affidavits.

57, correct me if I am wrong, but with respect to this lone example, your pursuit of truth was pretty much composed of trying to find sources to discredit the guy.

I am totally cool with supporting the notion that the guy was not actually ordered, but a balanced sense of the event would lend significance to the fact that everyone except four Democrats (though I thought it was two, just the mother-daughter pair) did indeed leave and their departure correlates to whatever the one woman said. Moreover, ballots were counted while there were no onlookers.

I mean...aren't such facts worthy? Aren't they pertinent? At least potentially so?

It is my conviction that a massive picture emerges from a composite - the sum-total of all such evidence from all such alleged witnesses for all states that stopped counting when Trump had a lead and where that lead vanished during middle of the night counting.

For whatever reason, 57, you see no significance.

I am satisfied having identified this fork in the road. Such a truth-seeking method can only find truth through blind luck. Like a broken clock being right a couple times a day.

I have a real hard time with anyone refusing this kind of information that is so easily available. Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
 
larry806q said:
1. Is English your first language? Are you dyslexic (sincerely, that is not a shot at you)?............. The Democratic party WAS in charge of counting the votes in Georgia and Arizona (which is why the Democrats are fighting so hard to stop the re-counts). No, I did not state or infer (as far as I am concerned) that point in the initial post. In the case of Georgia regardless of who may or may not have been in charge, when the Democrats tell the Republicans everything is done for the night - the Republicans being awfully naive, leave and the Democrats go, well know we can keep on counting - by default puts them in charge/control - THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THE BUILDING! .
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I do not accept this as a fact, that the Democratic party WAS in charge of counting the votes in Georgia or Arizona or anywhere else. It does not matter how often this is repeated it is simply not true, that is not how things are done in this country. It is true however that the people who work for the municipalities are free to associate with whichever political party they think represent their interests or values. But that is what being an American is all about, freedom to associate.


https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-...ions-atlanta-c23d10e5299e14daee6109885f7dafa9
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FiftySeven said:
I do not accept this as a fact, that the Democratic party WAS in charge of counting the votes in Georgia or Arizona or anywhere else. It does not matter how often this is repeated it is simply not true, that is not how things are done in this country. It is true however that the people who work for the municipalities are free to associate with whichever political party they think represent their interests or values. But that is what being an American is all about, freedom to associate.


https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-...ions-atlanta-c23d10e5299e14daee6109885f7dafa9
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Yeah, well, you are INTENTIONALLY working off astonishingly incomplete information. There are literally hundreds of testimonies of people who were in these very precincts and working with the election.

You can make your information a lot less incomplete, but you would rather not.

Kinda makes I do not accept this as a fact a rather weak proposition.
 
FiftySeven said:
I do not accept this as a fact, that the Democratic party WAS in charge of counting the votes in Georgia or Arizona or anywhere else. It does not matter how often this is repeated it is simply not true, that is not how things are done in this country. It is true however that the people who work for the municipalities are free to associate with whichever political party they think represent their interests or values. But that is what being an American is all about, freedom to associate.


https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-...ions-atlanta-c23d10e5299e14daee6109885f7dafa9
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Where to start. 1. The ultimate person responsible for the Georgia election(s) was (under the law for 2020) a Republican (the law has since been changed). I can not for the life of me find the Georgia law on how the County Board of Elections are put in place. The original story of how the vote counting was "stopped" (interrupted?) was that there was a water main break (it was a leak in one of the restrooms). There is video on Rumble showing a video of the Fulton County workers discussing how to proceed in a less than lawful manner. The quality of the recording is not good at best. There is now a story that Fulton County (where the issue is, not at the state level) did use temporary workers and that they came from a temp agency that was 16% owned by Stacey Abrahms (a Democrat). The Democrats were NOT responsible for the election in Georgia on the state level and I have not taken time to look at Arizona.
 
Larry, your last contribution requires me to amend my most recent one.

There is the term RINO (Republican In Name Only). I should have noted what you did. Plenty of Republicans on the side of wrong as well. Duly noted.

The elections of a few large cities, at the least, were run by folks involved in blatant criminality. Whatever the party such folks were affiliated with.
 
larry806q said:
Where to start. 1. The ultimate person responsible for the Georgia election(s) was (under the law for 2020) a Republican (the law has since been changed). I can not for the life of me find the Georgia law on how the County Board of Elections are put in place. The original story of how the vote counting was "stopped" (interrupted?) was that there was a water main break (it was a leak in one of the restrooms). There is video on Rumble showing a video of the Fulton County workers discussing how to proceed in a less than lawful manner. The quality of the recording is not good at best. There is now a story that Fulton County (where the issue is, not at the state level) did use temporary workers and that they came from a temp agency that was 16% owned by Stacey Abrahms (a Democrat). The Democrats were NOT responsible for the election in Georgia on the state level and I have not taken time to look at Arizona.
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OH MY GOD, Stacey Abrams owned 16% of the temp agency that won a contract with the state of GA to assist in vote counting (which they won in 2016 according to USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...owner-happy-faces-personnel-group/5358243001/) interestingly though she is free to invest in companies as any American is, it turns out that that little tidbit, which certainly seems to suggest malfeasance is pure bullshit...just like the rest of your arguments.
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Here, I am doing something unusual. Mike Lindell, the MyPillow business owner, claims to have irrefutable proof of major election fraud. He gave some tidbits with a video and he says he is going to release all the data on August 10-12. Check out the chart.

Contentions Made:
1. Thousands of such pcap's (packet captures).
2. Sampling 20.
3. The sample is REPRESENTATIVE.

Instead of thousands, I will assume the total number of such data output is 1,000. Now, I am just going to adjust proportionally to estimate what the total number of pcap's would give us.

1,000/20 = 50.

OK, so adjust the summarized results for the 20 by 50x.

Votes switched by state
PA: 9,403,900
GA: 2,361,650
AZ: 2,368,600
MI: 10,132,850
WI: 3,526,200

These results are WAY too high. And I adjusted by the least-case, 1000. What if there were 10,000 pcap's? What? 35+ million votes were switched in Wisconsin? Wisconsin's total population is ~5,852,490.

Utterly absurd.

In addition, such data is typically encrypted and not decrypted until it reaches its destination.lindell.jpg
 
https://twitter.com/blaisep59407586/status/1422575842509705221?s=25&fbclid=IwAR2M0sUw2rLIjYZjXkrOzifoSjdIvdpssc_VFzpIKBpPUNdyClXyJseI6cs

CodeMonkeyZ (on Telegram):
A whistleblower reached out with footage filmed of the Dominion Election Management System inside an election center in one of the states that used Dominion software and hardware (not Arizona).

As you will see in the video, the whistleblower initially discusses with a Dominion employee about who holds the BIOS password and it is discovered that the STATE is keeping the password - not Dominion, and not the county.

Later, the whistleblower asks the Dominion employee about connectivity and whether or not the machines can be connected to the internet...

With just 1 minute and 17 seconds, we expose their most egregious lie.

FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING.

-- disclaimer: This footage was NOT filmed in Arizona.

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Commentary of the above from Telegram user LadyDraza:
Just some immediate observations based on what I have seen so far. Please correct me if necessary:

1) CEO claims there is no capability to have a network connections. Having worked for a company that developed their system software as a Microsoft partner, it is possible to modify the distribution of the OS to meet your needs. If they had intended this to be completely offline, this "greyed out" option would have been made completely unavailable and removed from this distribution, and not able to be "re-enabled".

2) We all saw the screen image with the bios passwords shown. So, either the state does keep the passwords and shares, or the commissioning notes that we saw indicated that part of setup process is to obtain the passwords at the time of onsite configuration.

3) The fact that the image shows that PXE boot is enabled is bizarre on a system that should have no network connectivity. This is at best sloppy and unprofessional configuration and at worst proof of the CEO's perjury.
 
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