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Its not that he is despicable, its that he is un-American
I am not about to take ANYTHING on Google seriously, they'd have to improve just to be biased. I also don't take anything on Twitter seriously: 1 for the same reason and 2, there is no way to know the validity of any of those posts oh and there is a third - ANY and ALL Conservative input is at best censored and at worst simply prohibited. Now for the article. Classic case of they SAID they would never do such a thing. OK who said it and how is that verified? 2. In one paragraph any form of marker will work the machines don't have a problem reading them (including the bleed thru). In a paragraph further down felt tips were discouraged because they bleed thru (the issue that wasn't a problem with sharpies - HUH?) And as is being established pretty much as we exchange posts about this the veracity of both the machines and the people controlling those machines is being seriously questioned.
Did you read what you posted? Are you reading MY posts? "A new book claims" "according to the book" (bigger fonts don't make ANYTHING more real or true). There will be more on this but I am going to need some time.
OK so I did some research (or tried). That Trump thru his spokesperson Ms. Harrington completely denies he/Trump ever said those words. Now I certainly realize that that and $3.00 gets folks on here a cup of coffee but as of right now that is where it is at. Further if one relies on the media, Trump is indeed un-American which is a hell of a feat to pull off - my hat is off to the media. And anything I post as numerical observations to the contrary via Government numbers will be dismissed so I am not going to bother.
I then get to assume the left crowd on here is thrilled to paying near double for Gasoline (U.S. anyhow) and $90.00 for a $18.00 piece of plywood. Inflation in May depending on which index you chose to use is up either 4.5% or 5.4% for a month.
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Hey 57,
You seem to me like someone who insists on doubling down with a real crappy poker hand.
Portions of our government staged a coup through a massively fraudulent presidential election.
I choose to believe that Trump and Giuliani and Powell and their ilk are baldfaced liars rather than believe that hundreds of trained and employed journalists who track down information that show the proof of these politically motivated lies are the actual liars. Does that make me a fool?
These journalists, most of whom are advocates and track down nothing, are in on the deception.
You have never one time displayed a willingness to listen to eyewitness testimony. I watched the hearings of all suspect states. Not journalists. Not politicians. Likely not people with some agenda. Given they signed affidavits, very likely not out to deceive. Just regular people passionate that things that went on were very, very wrong.
If the deception no longer works, karma is coming and it is a bitch somtimes.
You seem to me like someone who insists on doubling down with a real crappy poker hand.
Portions of our government staged a coup through a massively fraudulent presidential election.
I choose to believe that Trump and Giuliani and Powell and their ilk are baldfaced liars rather than believe that hundreds of trained and employed journalists who track down information that show the proof of these politically motivated lies are the actual liars. Does that make me a fool?
These journalists, most of whom are advocates and track down nothing, are in on the deception.
You have never one time displayed a willingness to listen to eyewitness testimony. I watched the hearings of all suspect states. Not journalists. Not politicians. Likely not people with some agenda. Given they signed affidavits, very likely not out to deceive. Just regular people passionate that things that went on were very, very wrong.
If the deception no longer works, karma is coming and it is a bitch somtimes.
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so i watched the poll workers counting ballots at night without republican poll watchers watching them but they were videoed and presumably knew they were. Once the republican lawmakers have their way people like this will end up in prison for....counting ballots at night without republican poll watchers watching them but being videoed and presumably knowing they are....My question is...did this happen in 2016, in 2012....is it really that unusual?
Aside from that, yes the reporters who are following these stories are a mixed bag, just like anywhere else in america. Some are diligent and some suck. But the trumpsters are known liars. documented, on tape in print , all over the place.
And all these people you claim signing affidavits...what do they really know, just what they think they know and that in itself is not proof of anything.
Not that he needed it but Trump is making Al Gore look like a superhero (btw he won that election but the GOP out right stole it.) Had Gore been president we never would have invaded Iraq and the Taliban would have been eradicated. (just my opinion)
But GW B did set us up to fight the current pandemic so maybe it was for the best.
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I do not think they knew they were videotaped. The video was from State Farm Arena, not a formal part of the election protocol. The video took place on November 3rd, 2020, presidential election night, after everyone was told to leave the area.
And it really is that unusual.
Amazing. You write that they "presumably" knew they were being videotaped and also say to me that I "claim" they signed affidavits. This is well known. Every witness in the hearings signed affidavits.
Also amazing...you describe their testimony as "what they think they know."
Their testimony is what they firsthand saw.
Your truth-seeking posture effectively dismisses the lot of them. That is reprehensible.
Ok I'll bite! NOT USING "REPORTERS", provide the obvious and known lies of Redman bad. GO FOR IT! Regardless of what the DEMOCRAT vote counters did or did not know....IT IS THE LAW BOTH PARTIES ARE IN ATTENDANCE. Then your good if Republicans count votes without any Dems there....good to know!
I'll be kind and save you some time.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/06/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/10/anti-trump-corporate-media-lafayette-square-mlk-bust-wiretapped-nice-people-white-supremacy-fake-news/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...ll-of-the-stories-he-was-right-about-n2590915
https://storywarrant.com/2021/06/14/ten-times-trump-has-been-proven-right-since-the-election/
https://thenewamerican.com/britains-largest-paper-admits-trump-was-right/
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https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-21/chapter-2/article-11/part-1/21-2-408/
all caps though makes it true
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please post these affidavits with links
https://themichiganstar.com/2020/11...ks-and-balances-on-the-vote-counting-process/ (patience I need some more time)
http://rules.sos.state.ga.us/gac/183-1-12
OK now for the explanation (this took longer than I expected). I certainly understand you mean well and you think you know what is going on. 02b's premise that you are doubling down on a bad poker hand isn't really fair since you aren't aware that you do indeed have a VERY bad poker hand (thru really no fault of your own).
To directly address your post. THAT IS POLL WATCHERS (all caps does make a difference here) (and why are you so cranked up about this font size shit?) I guess the left thinks that if they can make it look legitimate it doesn't need to be legitimate - oh well. I made NO mention of the POLL WATCHERS! I stipulated ballot COUNTERS, VAST DIFFERENCE.
My first link stipulates my point in English. My second link is the Georgia law, just to be kind, the important sections as it relates to your position are: Rule183-1-12.12 (a) 1 and 4 as well as (b) 3.
Neither I, Fox News, or anyone else on the right made any of that shit up - it WAS Georgia law for the 2020 election (they have since updated their voting laws). To sum all of that up there are 2 key points. 1. IT SHALL BE DONE IN PUBLIC AS IN *PUBLIC*. No, in a closed convention hall with only Democrats involved does not in any manner shape form or mis-use of the English language by the left constitute "OPEN TO THE PUBLIC". The second important point is that and I may be paraphrasing "The Superintendent and 2 (that would be TWO) appointed people (I know they didn't use the word people) to deal with the ballots (and that isn't worded that way either).
Beyond everything else 1. My parents were poll workers for literally decades. 2. *I* worked at the County Elections board on multiple years. You can link all the bullshit URL's you want but just because CNN and the rest think its neat DOES NOT MAKE IT THE LAW.
You are indeed playing a losing hand.
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PULEASE......large font AND highlighted! It must be true. I am not typing the same reply over again just for you (please don't be offended). Please refer to post #1358 of this thread to see why your LARGE FONT HIGHLIGHTED URL and quotes are also invalid. ONE PARTY CAN NOT, ON THEIR OWN COUNT THE F&^%$ING ballots in private by themselves! IT IS ILLEGAL (in ALL states). It just doesn't matter in Illinois. Pennsylvania and Michigan. Looks like it is going to possibly matter in Arizona.
Why do you folks even think it is a good idea (other than your guy "won" (I use the term as loosely as it can be used) this time). So how about in 2024 since you think it is neat that Democrats are all good counting ballots after hours in private by themselves we afford the Republicans the SAME (i.e.SAME) courtesy in 2024! Good for the goose good for the gander? Somehow your hypocrisy will be on full display on that suggestion.
I don't know who this is addressed to (nor do I know why this is going in as italicised) I will spend a BRIEF amount of time honoring your request. *I* in this most recent scrum did NOT offer the affadavit front.
https://standupamericaus.org/comple...s-errors-fraud-of-2020-presidential-election/
https://www.citizensjournal.us/brea...ngle-court-has-allowed-evidence-to-be-argued/
(It is now late, you wanted URL's I am providing them, I am NOT screening them for "approved" sources.)
https://www.theblaze.com/news/affidavits-alleged-voting-regularities-in-michigan
I did not personally check the link in this article to the 234 (?) affidavits it says it is linked to.
https://www.newsmax.com/murdock/affidavits-bartiromo-tribe-clark/2020/11/20/id/998077/
Trigger warning on that one (a specific news organization is actually named - so read at your own risk).
https://rightwirereport.com/2020/12/04/summary-portal-of-alleged-election-fraud-in-2020/
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
And on that note - GOOD NIGHT!
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Here's a person who testified that everyone was effectively told to leave. Affidavit:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20420331-mitchell-harrison-affidavit
The thing that gets me about the idea of trying to come to the truth of the matter with some procedure that refuses the testimony of folks working at the voting facilities, is that such people would seem to generally be the most truthful.
Imagine you are a third party. There is an alleged crime. We know nothing. Nothing about who did it, how they did it, etc. Allegedly, there are hundreds of people who claim to have first-hand knowledge of the crime.
You are asked to determine whether or not there is a crime. First, you drum up some method for doing so and you come up with rules of procedure.
Rule #1:
Absolutely DO NOT look at a shred of alleged proof by folks claiming they saw the crime firsthand.
I need to add one more thing. One of the persons who testified was caricatured on Saturday Night Live. I saw her actual testimony. She appeared very qualified. I believe she was professionally employed in the IT field. The content of her testimony was compelling. She is a blonde woman, likely in her 30's, that testified in the Michigan hearing.
She also came off as a complete jerk. In all the testimonies I saw, she was like this lone outlier. No one else was remotely close to her in terms of her behavior.
I get that SNL would not likely use some unexciting witness. I mean...that wouldn't work for a comedy skit. But, I am sure it was more than that. Make them all look like looney tunes. And everyone can laugh. What a bunch of whack-job morons!
Multi-billion dollar companies such as CNN, information sources with an obvious political bent, politicians - I would not consider such to necessarily be high integrity sources.
But, regular Americans who worked in the voting facilities?
These are the folks to essentially completely censor? Really?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20420331-mitchell-harrison-affidavit
The thing that gets me about the idea of trying to come to the truth of the matter with some procedure that refuses the testimony of folks working at the voting facilities, is that such people would seem to generally be the most truthful.
Imagine you are a third party. There is an alleged crime. We know nothing. Nothing about who did it, how they did it, etc. Allegedly, there are hundreds of people who claim to have first-hand knowledge of the crime.
You are asked to determine whether or not there is a crime. First, you drum up some method for doing so and you come up with rules of procedure.
Rule #1:
Absolutely DO NOT look at a shred of alleged proof by folks claiming they saw the crime firsthand.
I need to add one more thing. One of the persons who testified was caricatured on Saturday Night Live. I saw her actual testimony. She appeared very qualified. I believe she was professionally employed in the IT field. The content of her testimony was compelling. She is a blonde woman, likely in her 30's, that testified in the Michigan hearing.
She also came off as a complete jerk. In all the testimonies I saw, she was like this lone outlier. No one else was remotely close to her in terms of her behavior.
I get that SNL would not likely use some unexciting witness. I mean...that wouldn't work for a comedy skit. But, I am sure it was more than that. Make them all look like looney tunes. And everyone can laugh. What a bunch of whack-job morons!
Multi-billion dollar companies such as CNN, information sources with an obvious political bent, politicians - I would not consider such to necessarily be high integrity sources.
But, regular Americans who worked in the voting facilities?
These are the folks to essentially completely censor? Really?
OK, OK, so now I see why the confusion, me bad. I did not take note of the reference to poll counting when you used two different terms. You have poll WORKERS (upper case to denote difference) counting the ballots and poll WATCHERS as to be able WATCH. NO! It takes at least one person of each party to COUNT (work). Not only is that unusual (to not have both parties represented while counting,) IT IS ILLEGAL! And yes, the Dems claimed the "observers" were being a pain in the butt so they did not have to contend with them as well. Other locations simply put up barricades or blocked windows so that no one could see....and the need for that would be? They were being too honest and didn't want anyone to know what good boys and girls they were?
I certainly take, understand and agree with your logic however, it isn't valid in this environment. The left is for the most part using logic that is 180 degrees from that that you use. Individuals are flawed and given a choice won't make the honest decision. They will make the best self serving decision. Which is why one "needs" the Government/Media to determine what is right and what is wrong. The group WILL make the correct decision even though ti is made up of individuals. Everyone has been fed this premise for a lot of decades some people buy it some don't. Pre-war Germans bought it, the Cubans bought it, the Venezuelans bought it, the list goes on. The Government certainly wouldn't lie to us and the "conservative" (in a good number of cases) premise is evil. I have not managed to figure out what the media thinks they gain in this exercise, for eventually they get eliminated as well.
https://www.businessinsider.com/my-pillow-mike-lindell-offers-5-million-disprove-voter-fraud-2021-7
Ok boys and girls here is your chance to stop worrying about having to ever work again! $5 MILLION for simply dis-proving the pillow guy is full of s&^t.
Now how hard can that be?
Ok boys and girls here is your chance to stop worrying about having to ever work again! $5 MILLION for simply dis-proving the pillow guy is full of s&^t.
Now how hard can that be?