Type Vote

ABH's mbti type?

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  • ISFJ

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  • ISTP

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  • ENFP

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  • ENFJ

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  • ESFP

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  • ESFJ

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  • ESTP

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  • ESTJ

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  • ENTJ

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  • Total voters
    23
Interesting, I am on the fence about the E part.

Extroversion is a skill I have acquired over the years. While I appear to have mastered it on the surface, it's extremely stressful for me when I need to turn it on.

I view it as a necessary evil so that I can get things done.
 
Extroversion is a skill I have acquired over the years. While I appear to have mastered it on the surface, it's extremely stressful for me when I need to turn it on.

I view it as a necessary evil so that I can get things done.
I think the other’s covered it pretty well concerning what tests are best…I retake a random one from time to time to see if anything is different…but I have always tested as an INFJ…the first time was in college psychology where I was promptly singled out as an anomaly…very good for the self-esteem…”So you thought you felt alone before…well guess what?!”
Anyhow...
I’m really good at being extroverted…I actually ( I know this is weird ) enjoy public speaking…hahaha.
Jung and those who followed him believed in the concept of “individuation” where as we mature throughout our lives that we naturally (if we are of a healthy mind) strive to bring our inferior functions out, dust them off, and try to develop them…the ultimate goal would be a balance between your tertiary functions and your inferior ones.
I would go with what you most consistently test as…and then consider that any test that may be anomalous could be a melange of your process of individuation and what is taking place in your life and emotional state.
 
I think the other’s covered it pretty well concerning what tests are best…I retake a random one from time to time to see if anything is different…but I have always tested as an INFJ…the first time was in college psychology where I was promptly singled out as an anomaly…very good for the self-esteem…”So you thought you felt alone before…well guess what?!”
Anyhow...
I’m really good at being extroverted…I actually ( I know this is weird ) enjoy public speaking…hahaha.
Jung and those who followed him believed in the concept of “individuation” where as we mature throughout our lives that we naturally (if we are of a healthy mind) strive to bring our inferior functions out, dust them off, and try to develop them…the ultimate goal would be a balance between your tertiary functions and your inferior ones.
I would go with what you most consistently test as…and then consider that any test that may be anomalous could be a melange of your process of individuation and what is taking place in your life and emotional state.

I'll echo what [MENTION=5045]Skarekrow[/MENTION] said here. I'm very very introverted. My 16personalities.com test scored me around 94ish percent on the introvert scale. But I love teaching, so much that I'm persuing a career in academia. If it's something I'm knowledgable about, I don't mind talking to people about it.
 
Any changes in opinion regarding my type? Any new feedback? I'm all ears! :)
 
I think the way to do this is say there's 2 separate ways of focusing on MBTI-related issues -- one more philosophical and one more empirically scientific. The latter is dominated by schools of thought like the Big 5. The former includes various ideas on functions theory.

In the latter, I think you are probably something like an iNxx. I don't think you're either a strong T or a strong F based on the various writings of yours I've tried to read in helping with your type. And you seem to score pretty moderate on all the dimensions, either Big 5 or MBTI, except Openness to Experience was high enough that I think you're probably an N. The things you say about yourself make me think on balance you're likely an introvert (in the empirical systems).
If held with a gun to my head, I think in the empirical methodology I'd say I'm an INTP, by the way. But I think T and P are not really solid and set in stone (I'm very strongly IN though).
Leading Big 5 researchers analyzed the MBTI and also support the idea that many are more in the middle of the extremes on 1 or more scales.

In the functions theory areas, all I know is you're introverted feeling> extraverted feeling. I don't have info to say too much on the other stuff.
Keep in mind the theories that say INFJs have extraverted feeling > introverted are more or less wrong.
If you like socionics, maybe you're indeed something like ILI (I'd guess ILI-Ni because you sound like you have a pretty strong Fi).
 
Oh and here's the general difference between Jungian F and MBTI's F: Jungian F was about the interface between feelings and value-judgment. MBTI F is about the interface between tenderness/compassion and feelings. Someone then who has a tender, caring nature, but who has not a very strong, discriminating sense of value judgment, would probably be less of a Jungian F.

Note that some who preach the idea that "feeling judgment has noooooooothing to do with emotion" have it wrong, and that's a shallow misrepresentation of Jung's actual view. Rather, the correct version of that statement is feeling judgment is not *entirely determined* by emotion, and involves our cognitive faculties of discerning value. The actual wave of physical sensation of positive/negative pleasure tones does not encapsulate the judgment, but rather the associations formed between it and concepts of value (termed "feeling-ideas" by Jung) are what lie at the heart of Jungian feeling.

You've stated you identify with this "unemotional" woman in your blog, which certainly makes you not the typical F; at the same time, the way you describe your relation to feelings is more along the lines of an "X" on T-F than a T I'd say. The gist is that it turns out free outward expression of affect is an extravert thing. You probably introvert your feelings, which makes you an "unemotional" person, but still with deep feelings that are held inside (sort of an inwardly passionate person rather than an effusive person).
Your Agreeableness score is also moderate.
All this is why I think you're more of an X than a T or an F.

I think you have a good, solid feeling function by the Jungian schools. You have inwardly passionate feelings, and seem to have a good sense of what is important to you.... something which some thinking types struggle with, as they can provide objective knowledge, while skirting questions of value judgment...you don't seem like that type of person (I kind of am, by the way, it's something I think ethical/F types and/or people with strong Jungian-F can inspire me to do more though). Anyway, in theories like socionics, it's very possible to have a strong influence from what they call the "hidden agenda" information element, and I think you definitely could fit some XLI with a strong hidden agenda Fi. If you want, you can also consider being some kind of Fi type, by the way-- I know at least one example of someone who tends to score T on MBTI tests, but considers herself a Fi-dominant.
Note that being an N or Open to Experience in the MBTI/Big 5 does NOT necessarily convince me someone is an intuitive in the Jungian systems.

Jung was a lot more willing to speak of sensation types who are creative and open to experience (vs the MBTI's Ss are traditional, and generally more closed to experience)...in fact he typed HIMSELF a sensation type at one point, and he definitely viewed himself as a creative, highly imaginative person. Whether you're a sensation or intuitive type is up to you to decide! We can talk that out. I guess you got intuitive results in the socionics tests you took, so that says something though. But to be totally honest, I feel like socionics N presentation is also somewhat MBTI-i-fied, and I have my own ideas on it.

Also you'll notice when I discuss functions theories I mix and match socionics, Jung, and other sources--that's because I tend not to like to view the systems as artificially different although I do acknowledge they organize the ideas differently. But it's better to get what's really conceptually going on rather than just blindly applying their rules.
 
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Extroversion is a skill I have acquired over the years. While I appear to have mastered it on the surface, it's extremely stressful for me when I need to turn it on.

I view it as a necessary evil so that I can get things done.

INFJ's are also the most extraverted introverted type, so that is no surprise.
And haha I also use extroversion for evil to get my own way. Relatable much.
 
I'd say you're an INFJ with Ti being a strong tertiary out of the 4 cognitive functions, but out of all 8, probably a strong Fi.
Take this test if you don't mind, and post the results.

http://www.celebritytypes.com/cognitive-function/test.php

Cognitive Function Test

Your most pronounced cognitive function is:
Introverted Intuition

You have a deep and persistent intellect that tends to receive its impetus from hunches at the very edge of consciousness. More often than not, you tend to be brooding over some problem or possibility, attempting to encompass all possible and impossible views on it at the same time, and to weave them all into something greater. Hence you have it in you to be seminally creative by developing completely new perspectives on big questions that were commonly thought settled. As a person you are likely to be thought highly original, unusual, and insightful. However, you tend to lack the joy of living in the present, your mind always being somewhere in the future. Your most likely Jungian type is INTJ or INFJ.

EXTROVERTED
INTUITION 61%

INTROVERTED
INTUITION 79%

EXTROVERTED
SENSATION 40%

INTROVERTED
SENSATION 24%

EXTROVERTED
THINKING 64%

INTROVERTED
THINKING 49%

EXTROVERTED
FEELING 65%

INTROVERTED
FEELING 45%
 
The INFJ's functions go from
In order (using your percentages)

Introverted intuition : 79%
Extraverted feeling : 65%
Introverted thinking : 49%
Extraverted sensation : 40%

As for INTJ's
Introverted intuition : 79%
Extraverted thinking : 64%
Introverted feeling : 45%
Extraverted sensation : 40%

So according to basing things off percentages and statistics alone, you could be INFJ, but it's extremely close.

But due to the fact that when it comes to gender, the scarcity of females being INTJ is the rarest of all types so, based on your functions, being a female would certainly cause you to have more emotion prior to being a male, which is how you could be an INTJ, but test as INFJ.

I've personally tested as INTJ even though I'm an INFJ, but solely to the fact that I'm male, and I by effect think more logically than emotionally by nature, or at least perceive things so.

I'd say to learn more about the cognitive functions and see which ones you believe you use more than the others to really determine your type.

I've been wanting to make a thread about this for awhile, I guess I will now.
 
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INTJ!

73.webp
 
Have you done this one: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

Keep in mind I treat functions very experimentally, and suggest the same for all

I've taken this test before, and just took it again to come out with another INTJ result Lol. Whenever I answer questions regarding people in a way that I'm not fond to people, I get INTJ, but if I answer regarding to people INFJ. Typing is so strict haha.
 
Agree with those who say you're an INFJ with strong Ti. I don't see you as INTJ anymore. No logical reason, just a vibe.
 
Cognitive Function Test

Your most pronounced cognitive function is:
Introverted Intuition

You have a deep and persistent intellect that tends to receive its impetus from hunches at the very edge of consciousness. More often than not, you tend to be brooding over some problem or possibility, attempting to encompass all possible and impossible views on it at the same time, and to weave them all into something greater. Hence you have it in you to be seminally creative by developing completely new perspectives on big questions that were commonly thought settled. As a person you are likely to be thought highly original, unusual, and insightful. However, you tend to lack the joy of living in the present, your mind always being somewhere in the future. Your most likely Jungian type is INTJ or INFJ.

EXTROVERTED
INTUITION 61%

INTROVERTED
INTUITION 79%

EXTROVERTED
SENSATION 40%

INTROVERTED
SENSATION 24%

EXTROVERTED
THINKING 64%

INTROVERTED
THINKING 49%

EXTROVERTED
FEELING 65%

INTROVERTED
FEELING 45%

Wow. That's extremely close. My gut says INTJ, but it may be most accurate to just go with INxJ since you seem to be so right down the middle here. I took this test and was definitely INTJ. My Fe score was VERY low haha.
 
Have you done this one: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

Keep in mind I treat functions very experimentally, and suggest the same for all


Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************ (24.1)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************************** (32.3)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.3)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************** (38.1)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.1)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************************** (29.2)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************* (25.3)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.2)
average use

Summary Analysis of Profile

By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP


Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.
 
Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************ (24.1)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************************** (32.3)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.3)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************** (38.1)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.1)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************************** (29.2)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************* (25.3)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.2)
average use

Summary Analysis of Profile

By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP


Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

I personally don't find that test accurate at all. The wording and structure is so biased towards the functions,
It's almost impossible to choose an answer accurately, but hey lol
 
I guess I don't find any of the functions tests reasonably "accurate" -- the functions models are anything but empirically true. For good empirically tested models, see the Big 5 etc. I'd instead think of them as highly differentiated frameworks through which one can see things, and conditionally, one may have grown accustomed to one or another.
The stricter claims like "everyone/most fall neatly into a type, and so and so functions model is the TRUE one while the others are FALSE, and the MBTI dichotomies are not what the MBTI really indicates" are singularly BS claims.

The sheer number of functions models out there is staggering, each with its own arbitrary assumptions. I have come up with a way of working with the ideas that I find interesting, but far from the only way there is. It's synthesized from a ton of reading+reflection.
 
Actually the very idea of a "function-attitude" is very experimental, because initially the Jungian idea of it was simply 4 functions and how they look different in the 2 personality types: introvert/extravert. There weren't 8 separate functions. Nonetheless, I think one can extrapolate reasonable frameworks from his ideas and play a lot of games with them that are interesting and revealing.

But short of willingness to be flexible, I honestly say toss all these theories and stick to something more experimentally verified, e.g. the big 5, where you don't even have well-defined types (only continuous distributions of covarying traits based on the statistical principles of factor extraction).
 
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