What if the Rothschilds are the good guys?

muir said:
Read their literature then but it is written to be dust in the eyes of the profane
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Which proves you are either a black sheep mason spreading all the secrets, or you don't know what the fuck your talking about.
 
muir said:
Listen sprinkles...this guy 'lark' is missleading people

take his comments above.....what he has written above is to throw you off realising that the people in hollywood and the people behind the computer games companies ARE qabalists

He's trying to portray it that its just a random cultural mishmash

I'm gonna keep flagging up everything this guy does so that everyone can see it

He's also buddying up in this thread with event horizon who has already said on the open forum that his dad is a freemasonic grandmaster. Event horizen got upset that i was spilling masonic secrets over the internt so he has started blocking my posts in protest! (ha ha as if that will stop me exposing the freemasons!)

But here'e where he and i differ...i believe that EVERYONE should know about this stuff. He and his brethren want to hoard the knowledge to themselves
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link it.
 
muir said:
"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws"
- Confucius
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This could be true. Why then do you not co-opt signs and symbols for your own use?
 
muir said:
"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws"
- Confucius
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http://classics.mit.edu/Browse/browse-Confucius.html

Three books are considered the sayings of Confucius as recorded by his followers after his death. You can search them yourself for any of these words and not find a phrase even remotely like this. Although it is more likely to be found in
[h=1]Language in Thought and Action [/h] by S.I. Hayakawa, or something similar.

I don't give a shit that Confucius probably never said it, it just proves that [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] accecpts as fact that which resonates with him and rejects as fact that which does not.

It is sloppy and poor scholarship to cut and paste "quotes" by famous and respected personages without verifiable attributions. It is what is wrong with all of [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] s arguments.
 
muir said:
event horizon who has already said on the open forum that his dad is a freemasonic grandmaster. Event horizen got upset that i was spilling masonic secrets over the internt so he has started blocking my posts in protest! (ha ha as if that will stop me exposing the freemasons!)

But here'e where he and i differ...i believe that EVERYONE should know about this stuff. He and his brethren want to hoard the knowledge to themselves
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this is kinda crazy.
 
Stu said:
this is kinda crazy.
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I deleted my original post regarding this. I was somewhat emotional. Ill simply say now that muir is now spreading lies about what I have said, what I mean. I am not upset with Muir because hes "giving" away Masonic secrets, its hard to give way something you dont have after all. I am upset that he is defaming good people for his own benefit and out of ignorance as well.

I also now realize its very likely I am not dealing with a balanced perspective on his part. Ill leave it at that.
 
the said:
Which proves you are either a black sheep mason spreading all the secrets, or you don't know what the fuck your talking about.
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Erm...sorry how does that work?

Can you explain the rationale behind what you are saying here because you've lost me

Freemasonry works through a system of degrees. With each degree they drip feed you more information to absorb but really they don't tell you the juicy stuff until they have assessed you for a long time and they are sure that you are the right sort of material by which time you have progressed through the degrees

Most freemasons don't make it that far

Freemasonry is very watered down. There are far more potent occult orders that will progress you much quicker. I have their rituals and inner secrets as well as the rituals of the freemasons

Freemasonry for the average person is really about making business connections or as one person once put it to me: ''once you're in the lodge you will never be short of work''

Of course most people won't admit that is why they joined it because it makes them sound mercenary so they will tell you that they did it to socialise

However the families who have been freemasons for generations (and i'm talking centuries) are fast tracked through the degrees and they know what the real agenda of freemasonry is

At the core of freemasonry is qabalah. Anyone who tries to tell you that the higher degrees of freemasonry are not about qabalah are either ignorant or they're deliberately trying to misslead you

If you read the general info the freemasons put out they tell you the usual spiel about a brotherhood of man and about charity work and all that lower degree crap. They don't tell you about what is being discussed at the top of the pyramid, so the statement i made about dust in the eyes of the profane was perfectly reasonable

Read their literature man but i'm just saying don't expect to find anything juicy in it because that stuff is hidden away
 
Stu said:
this is kinda crazy.
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I think it would be in bad faith for me to show you the PM's that me an EH exchanged so i won't
 
Eventhorizon said:
I deleted my original post regarding this. I was somewhat emotional. Ill simply say now that muir is now spreading lies about what I have said, what I mean. I am not upset with Muir because hes "giving" away Masonic secrets, its hard to give way something you dont have after all. I am upset that he is defaming good people for his own benefit and out of ignorance as well.

I also now realize its very likely I am not dealing with a balanced perspective on his part. Ill leave it at that.
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good idea
 
the said:
This could be true. Why then do you not co-opt signs and symbols for your own use?
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Jung was talking about the importance of symbols in dreams

Symbols are basically the language of the unconscious mind

Magicians believe that if you can influence things on the archetypal level ie on another dimension or the 'spirit world' if you like then this will in turn affect our physical reality

Qabalists talk about the 4 worlds of emanation. They say that everything in this physical world including the computer you are looking at is conceived in another dimension and then projected here

if you can control what is going on on an unconscious level then you can manipulate reality. Even if you do not self identify as a magician and you think this is all bunkum you could probably still recognise that if you can affect people subconsciously then you can affect their behaviour

...that's what the occult is all about....working on an unconscious level
 
muir said:
Listen sprinkles...this guy 'lark' is missleading people

take his comments above.....what he has written above is to throw you off realising that the people in hollywood and the people behind the computer games companies ARE qabalists

He's trying to portray it that its just a random cultural mishmash

I'm gonna keep flagging up everything this guy does so that everyone can see it

He's also buddying up in this thread with event horizon who has already said on the open forum that his dad is a freemasonic grandmaster. Event horizen got upset that i was spilling masonic secrets over the internt so he has started blocking my posts in protest! (ha ha as if that will stop me exposing the freemasons!)

But here'e where he and i differ...i believe that EVERYONE should know about this stuff. He and his brethren want to hoard the knowledge to themselves
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Muir, this is ridiculous and you need to stop falsely accusing people of things they aren't guilty of. They have opinions, just as you do and they are entitled to voice whether they agree with you or not, along with their views on the topic. To write something like this is irrational and it doesn't help your cause.
It almost sounds as if you are accusing [MENTION=4115]Lark[/MENTION] of trying to "throw people off" because he is secretly one of them. Then accusing him and [MENTION=8603]Eventhorizon[/MENTION] of joining forces to shut you down? It's called AGREEING with one another. People do this all the time. I haven't read anything that Eventhorizon has written that would make me think he had a problem with you writing what you claim are "Masonic secrets". I think he blocked you because some of the things that you write about are extreme and obviously so far from the truth that he chooses not to even see them pop up in the activity stream.

You have gone too far IMO. Chill out.
 
CrazyBeautiful said:
Muir, this is ridiculous and you need to stop falsely accusing people of things they aren't guilty of. They have opinions, just as you do and they are entitled to voice whether they agree with you or not, along with their views on the topic. To write something like this is irrational and it doesn't help your cause.
It almost sounds as if you are accusing @Lark of trying to "throw people off" because he is secretly one of them. Then accusing him and @Eventhorizon of joining forces to shut you down? It's called AGREEING with one another. People do this all the time. I haven't read anything that Eventhorizon has written that would make me think he had a problem with you writing what you claim are "Masonic secrets". I think he blocked you because some of the things that you write about are extreme and obviously so far from the truth that he chooses not to even see them pop up in the activity stream.

You have gone too far IMO. Chill out.
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Do you have a complete transcript of all the discussions i have had both on open forum, on message boards and in PM's with these guys?

if you do not please refrain from making judgements as you are doing so without full knowledge

I have been insulted by these guys, called crazy and a liar and yet you have not commented on that....

I find it interesting that the heat always turns up when i start talking about certain topics!
 
muir said:
Do you have a complete transcript of all the discussions i have had both on open forum, on message boards and in PM's with these guys?

if you do not please refrain from making judgements as you are doing so without full knowledge

I have been insulted by these guys, called crazy and a liar and yet you have not commented on that....

I find it interesting that the heat always turns up when i start talking about certain topics!
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No. Let us see them if they are so incriminating. Prove that you have a right to feel the way you do. Because so far I haven't seen anything to back what you are saying.

If you prove otherwise, then I will apologize.
 
CrazyBeautiful said:
No. Let us see them if they are so incriminating. Prove that you have a right to feel the way you do. Because so far I haven't seen anything to back what you are saying.

If you prove otherwise, then I will apologize.
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I'm not going to show you PM's

You're the one making accusations the onus is on you

You said you were a rothschild...i take it you were joking?
 
muir said:
I'm not going to show you PM's

You're the one making accusations the onus is on you

You said you were a rothschild...i take it you were joking?
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If you aren't going to show them as proof, then don't mention them. It's pointless.
 
CrazyBeautiful said:
If you aren't going to show them as proof, then don't mention them. It's pointless. Useless.
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No its not...i am saying to you that i have been dialoguing with these two guys for years now (with lark since 2011)

You are making judgements here but you are not privy to all those discussions so i'm saying to you that if you don't have the full picture then maybe you shouldn't make snap judgements

Now stu has called me crazy above and i then showed the comment by EH that i said he had made (that stu called me crazy for)...yet you are not criticising stu...why is that?

Are you a rothschild? (cos you said you were!)
 
muir said:
No its not...i am saying to you that i have been dialoguing with these two guys for years now (with lark since 2011)

You are making judgements here but you are not privy to all those discussions so i'm saying to you that if you don't have the full picture then maybe you shouldn't make snap judgements

Now stu has called me crazy above and i then showed the comment by EH that i said he had made (that stu called me crazy for)...yet you are not criticising stu...why is that? There seems to be a double standard going on here
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[MENTION=1939]Stu[/MENTION]

Please stop calling Muir crazy. He's not. He has his beliefs and even though they are more extreme than most peoples, that does not mean that he is crazy.

This is just a request. Whether you take it or not is up to you.
 
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CrazyBeautiful said:
@Stu

Please stop calling Muir crazy. He's not. He has his beliefs and even though they are more extreme than most peoples, that does not mean that he is crazy.

This is just a request. Whether you take it or not is up to you.
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Yeaahhh stu!

Thanks CB!

Oh....and...are you a rothschild?

P.S which of my views are 'extreme'?
 
Stu said:
muir said:
He's also buddying up in this thread with event horizon who has already said on the open forum that his dad is a freemasonic grandmaster. Event horizen got upset that i was spilling masonic secrets over the internt so he has started blocking my posts in protest! (ha ha as if that will stop me exposing the freemasons!)

But here'e where he and i differ...i believe that EVERYONE should know about this stuff. He and his brethren want to hoard the knowledge to themselves
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this is kinda crazy.
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I did not call you crazy, I pointed out that your post is kinda crazy.

BTW you insulted a member with personal information he shared, something you yourself are loath to do, not because your hiding from some super secret gang of billionaires who by your reckoning already know everything, but from us. I don't blame you seeing how Event got done.
 
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