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Jewish statesman Henry Kissinger said in the mainstream media that in 10 years time there will be no Israel
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-years-kissinger/
The idea of Israel’s inexorable collapse is no longer a taboo as more top brass US officials are explicitly attesting to the fact, with prominent US diplomat Henry Kissinger saying, “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”
“Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military.… He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, Israel will no longer exist,” political columnist Kevin Barrett wrote in an article published on Press TV website on Sunday.
He also pointed to a study commissioned by the US Intelligence Community (IC), comprised of 16 US intelligence agencies, earlier this year, titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” and pointed out that the content of the IC’s report corroborates Kissinger's contention.
“The sixteen US intelligence agencies agree that Israel cannot withstand the coming pro-Palestinian juggernaut consisting of the Arab Spring, the Islamic Awakening, and the rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” the analyst added.
The article argues that the emerging “complacency” among the US officials about Israel’s fate can be traced in the following reasons:
· American politicians and political activists “are growing fed-up with Israeli intransigence and fanaticism.”
· Americans feel “festering resentment over the Israel lobby's imperious domination of public discourse.”
· “The American Jewish community is no longer united in support of Israel.”
· It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks.
“In fact, the US is going broke and sacrificing thousands of lives in wars for Israel - wars that damage, rather than aid, US strategic interests,” the article said.
“It will become ever-easier for American policymakers, following in the footsteps of Kissinger and the sixteen intelligence agencies, to recognize the obvious: Israel has reached the end of its shelf-life,” Barrett concluded.
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-years-kissinger/
The idea of Israel’s inexorable collapse is no longer a taboo as more top brass US officials are explicitly attesting to the fact, with prominent US diplomat Henry Kissinger saying, “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”
“Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military.… He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, Israel will no longer exist,” political columnist Kevin Barrett wrote in an article published on Press TV website on Sunday.
He also pointed to a study commissioned by the US Intelligence Community (IC), comprised of 16 US intelligence agencies, earlier this year, titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” and pointed out that the content of the IC’s report corroborates Kissinger's contention.
“The sixteen US intelligence agencies agree that Israel cannot withstand the coming pro-Palestinian juggernaut consisting of the Arab Spring, the Islamic Awakening, and the rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” the analyst added.
The IC report contends that the US government no longer has the military and financial resources “to continue propping up Israel against the wishes of more than a billion of its neighbors” and suggests that “the US will have to follow its own national interests and pull the plug on Israel,” Barrett said.
Considering the fact that the Jewish Kissinger has long been viewed as an ardent friend of Israel and that the majority of US officials, including the authors of the IC report, are influenced by pro-Israeli lobby, the emerging messages become more remarkable, the article added. The article argues that the emerging “complacency” among the US officials about Israel’s fate can be traced in the following reasons:
· American politicians and political activists “are growing fed-up with Israeli intransigence and fanaticism.”
· Americans feel “festering resentment over the Israel lobby's imperious domination of public discourse.”
· “The American Jewish community is no longer united in support of Israel.”
· It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks.
“In fact, the US is going broke and sacrificing thousands of lives in wars for Israel - wars that damage, rather than aid, US strategic interests,” the article said.
“It will become ever-easier for American policymakers, following in the footsteps of Kissinger and the sixteen intelligence agencies, to recognize the obvious: Israel has reached the end of its shelf-life,” Barrett concluded.
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The Nag hammadi texts spoke about a force called the 'archons' that were manipulating people; people could acceot the archons into their life and if they accepted them wholeheartedly the archons would effectively take them over. here is a translation from the texts about the archons:
(The Reality of the Rulers)[/h]
On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle – referring to the "authorities of the darkness" – told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.
Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, "god of the blind."
His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power – that is, the blasphemy he had spoken – he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.
As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their weakness – since beings that merely possess a soul cannot lay hold of those that possess a spirit – for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will, she might bring the entirety into union with the light.
The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth." They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" – not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.
Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground. A voice came forth from incorruptibility for the assistance of Adam; and the rulers gathered together all the animals of the earth and all the birds of heaven and brought them in to Adam to see what Adam would call them, that he might give a name to each of the birds and all the beasts.
They took Adam and put him the garden, that he might cultivate it and keep watch over it. And the rulers issued a command to him, saying, "From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat, nor touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die."
They [...] this. They do not understand what they have said to him; rather, by the father's will, they said this in such a way that he might (in fact) eat, and that Adam might <not> regard them as would a man of an exclusively material nature.
The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam." And he slept. – Now the deep sleep that they "caused to fall upon him, and he slept" is Ignorance. – They opened his side like a living woman. And they built up his side with some flesh in place of her, and Adam came to be endowed only with soul.
And the spirit-endowed woman came to him and spoke with him, saying, "Arise, Adam." And when he saw her, he said, "It is you who have given me life; you will be called 'mother of the living'. – For it is she who is my mother. It is she who is the physician, and the woman, and she who has given birth."
Then the authorities came up to their Adam. And when they saw his female counterpart speaking with him, they became agitated with great agitation; and they became enamored of her. They said to one another, "Come, let us sow our seed in her," and they pursued her. And she laughed at them for their witlessness and their blindness; and in their clutches she became a tree, and left before them her shadowy reflection resembling herself; and they defiled it foully. – And they defiled the stamp of her voice, so that by the form they had modeled, together with their (own) image, they made themselves liable to condemnation.
Then the female spiritual principle came in the snake, the instructor; and it taught them, saying, "What did he say to you? Was it, 'From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet – from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat'?"
The carnal woman said, "Not only did he say 'Do not eat', but even 'Do not touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die.'"
And the snake, the instructor, said, "With death you shall not die; for it was out of jealousy that he said this to you. Rather your eyes shall open and you shall come to be like gods, recognizing evil and good." And the female instructing principle was taken away from the snake, and she left it behind, merely a thing of the earth.
And the carnal woman took from the tree and ate; and she gave to her husband as well as herself; and these beings that possessed only a soul, ate. And their imperfection became apparent in their lack of knowledge; and they recognized that they were naked of the spiritual element, and took fig leaves and bound them upon their loins.
Then the chief ruler came; and he said, "Adam! Where are you?" – for he did not understand what had happened. And Adam said, "I heard your voice and was afraid because I was naked; and I hid."
The ruler said, "Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!"
Adam said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.
The woman said, "It was the snake that led me astray and I ate." They turned to the snake and cursed its shadowy reflection, [...] powerless, not comprehending that it was a form they themselves had modeled. From that day, the snake came to be under the curse of the authorities; until the all-powerful man was to come, that curse fell upon the snake.
They turned to their Adam and took him and expelled him from the garden along with his wife; for they have no blessing, since they too are beneath the curse. Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.
Now afterwards, she bore Cain, their son; and Cain cultivated the land. Thereupon he knew his wife; again becoming pregnant, she bore Abel; and Abel was a herdsman of sheep. Now Cain brought in from the crops of his field, but Abel brought in an offering (from) among his lambs. God looked upon the votive offerings of Abel; but he did not accept the votive offerings of Cain. And carnal Cain pursued Abel, his brother.
And God said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?"
He answered saying, "Am I, then, my brother's keeper?"
God said to Cain, "Listen! The voice of your brother's blood is crying up to me! You have sinned with your mouth. It will return to you: anyone who kills Cain will let loose seven vengeances, and you will exist groaning and trembling upon the earth."
And Adam knew his female counterpart Eve, and she became pregnant, and bore Seth to Adam. And she said, "I have borne another man through God, in place of Abel." Again Eve became pregnant, and she bore Norea. And she said, "He has begotten on me a virgin as an assistance for many generations of mankind." She is the virgin whom the forces did not defile.
Then mankind began to multiply and improve. The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deluge with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man to beast." But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to Noah, "Make yourself an ark from some wood that does not rot and hide in it - you and your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large – and set it upon Mount Sir."
Then Norea came to him, wanting to board the ark. And when he would not let her, she blew upon the ark and caused it to be consumed by fire. Again he made the ark, for a second time.
The rulers went to meet her, intending to lead her astray. Their supreme chief said to her, "Your mother Eve came to us." But Norea turned to them and said to them, "It is you who are the rulers of the darkness; you are accursed. And you did not know my mother; instead it was your female counterpart that you knew. For I am not your descendant; rather it is from the world above that I am come."
The arrogant ruler turned, with all his might, and his countenance came to be like (a) black [...]; he said to her presumptuously, "You must render service to us, as did also your mother Eve; for I have been given [...]." But Norea turned, with the might of [...]; and in a loud voice, she cried out up to the holy one, the God of the entirety, "Rescue me from the rulers of unrighteousness and save me from their clutches - forthwith!"
The (great) angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?"
Norea said, "Who are you?" The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her.
He said, "It is I who am Eleleth, sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit. I have been sent to speak with you and save you from the grasp of the lawless. And I shall teach you about your root."
(Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow. No, truly, my mouth cannot bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!
Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe."
But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities – how did they come into being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their force?"
And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.
Opening his eyes, he saw a vast quantity of matter without limit; and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And a voice came forth from above the realm of absolute power, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, 'god of the blind'.
And he said, "If any other thing exists before me, let it become visible to me!" And immediately Sophia stretched forth her finger and introduced light into matter; and she pursued it down to the region of chaos. And she returned up to her light; once again darkness [...] matter.
This ruler, by being androgynous, made himself a vast realm, an extent without limit. And he contemplated creating offspring for himself, and created for himself seven offspring, androgynous just like their parent. And he said to his offspring, "It is I who am god of the entirety."
And Zoe (Life), the daughter of Pistis Sophia, cried out and said to him, "You are mistaken, Sakla!" – for which the alternative name is Yaltabaoth. She breathed into his face, and her breath became a fiery angel for her; and that angel bound Yaldabaoth and cast him down into Tartaros below the abyss.
Now when his offspring Sabaoth saw the force of that angel, he repented and condemned his father and his mother, matter. He loathed her, but he sang songs of praise up to Sophia and her daughter Zoe. And Sophia and Zoe caught him up and gave him charge of the seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the forces, Sabaoth', since he is up above the forces of chaos, for Sophia established him.
Now when these (events) had come to pass, he made himself a huge four-faced chariot of cherubim, and infinitely many angels to act as ministers, and also harps and lyres. And Sophia took her daughter Zoe and had her sit upon his right to teach him about the things that exist in the eighth (heaven); and the angel of wrath she placed upon his left. Since that day, his right has been called 'life'; and the left has come to represent the unrighteousness of the realm of absolute power above. It was before your time that they came into being.
Now when Yaldabaoth saw him (Sabaoth) in this great splendor and at this height, he envied him; and the envy became an androgynous product, and this was the origin of envy. And envy engendered death; and death engendered his offspring and gave each of them charge of its heaven; and all the heavens of chaos became full of their multitudes. But it was by the will of the father of the entirety that they all came into being – after the pattern of all the things above – so that the sum of chaos might be attained.
"There, I have taught you about the pattern of the rulers; and the matter in which it was expressed; and their parent; and their universe."
But I said, "Sir, am I also from their matter?"
"You, together with your offspring, are from the primeval father; from above, out of the imperishable light, their souls are come. Thus the authorities cannot approach them, because of the spirit of truth present within them; and all who have become acquainted with this way exist deathless in the midst of dying mankind. Still, that sown element will not become known now. Instead, after three generations it will come to be known, and it has freed them from the bondage of the authorities' error."
Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"
He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent.
Then he will teach them about everything, and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.
Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element belongs.
Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their destruction, and their demons will lament their death.
Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit. They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety", and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy – holy – holy! Amen!'"
The Nag Hammadi Library
[h=3]The Hypostasis of the Archons(The Reality of the Rulers)[/h]
Translated by Bentley Layton
On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle – referring to the "authorities of the darkness" – told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.
Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, "god of the blind."
His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power – that is, the blasphemy he had spoken – he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.
As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their weakness – since beings that merely possess a soul cannot lay hold of those that possess a spirit – for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will, she might bring the entirety into union with the light.
The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth." They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" – not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.
Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground. A voice came forth from incorruptibility for the assistance of Adam; and the rulers gathered together all the animals of the earth and all the birds of heaven and brought them in to Adam to see what Adam would call them, that he might give a name to each of the birds and all the beasts.
They took Adam and put him the garden, that he might cultivate it and keep watch over it. And the rulers issued a command to him, saying, "From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat, nor touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die."
They [...] this. They do not understand what they have said to him; rather, by the father's will, they said this in such a way that he might (in fact) eat, and that Adam might <not> regard them as would a man of an exclusively material nature.
The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam." And he slept. – Now the deep sleep that they "caused to fall upon him, and he slept" is Ignorance. – They opened his side like a living woman. And they built up his side with some flesh in place of her, and Adam came to be endowed only with soul.
And the spirit-endowed woman came to him and spoke with him, saying, "Arise, Adam." And when he saw her, he said, "It is you who have given me life; you will be called 'mother of the living'. – For it is she who is my mother. It is she who is the physician, and the woman, and she who has given birth."
Then the authorities came up to their Adam. And when they saw his female counterpart speaking with him, they became agitated with great agitation; and they became enamored of her. They said to one another, "Come, let us sow our seed in her," and they pursued her. And she laughed at them for their witlessness and their blindness; and in their clutches she became a tree, and left before them her shadowy reflection resembling herself; and they defiled it foully. – And they defiled the stamp of her voice, so that by the form they had modeled, together with their (own) image, they made themselves liable to condemnation.
Then the female spiritual principle came in the snake, the instructor; and it taught them, saying, "What did he say to you? Was it, 'From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet – from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat'?"
The carnal woman said, "Not only did he say 'Do not eat', but even 'Do not touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die.'"
And the snake, the instructor, said, "With death you shall not die; for it was out of jealousy that he said this to you. Rather your eyes shall open and you shall come to be like gods, recognizing evil and good." And the female instructing principle was taken away from the snake, and she left it behind, merely a thing of the earth.
And the carnal woman took from the tree and ate; and she gave to her husband as well as herself; and these beings that possessed only a soul, ate. And their imperfection became apparent in their lack of knowledge; and they recognized that they were naked of the spiritual element, and took fig leaves and bound them upon their loins.
Then the chief ruler came; and he said, "Adam! Where are you?" – for he did not understand what had happened. And Adam said, "I heard your voice and was afraid because I was naked; and I hid."
The ruler said, "Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!"
Adam said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.
The woman said, "It was the snake that led me astray and I ate." They turned to the snake and cursed its shadowy reflection, [...] powerless, not comprehending that it was a form they themselves had modeled. From that day, the snake came to be under the curse of the authorities; until the all-powerful man was to come, that curse fell upon the snake.
They turned to their Adam and took him and expelled him from the garden along with his wife; for they have no blessing, since they too are beneath the curse. Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.
Now afterwards, she bore Cain, their son; and Cain cultivated the land. Thereupon he knew his wife; again becoming pregnant, she bore Abel; and Abel was a herdsman of sheep. Now Cain brought in from the crops of his field, but Abel brought in an offering (from) among his lambs. God looked upon the votive offerings of Abel; but he did not accept the votive offerings of Cain. And carnal Cain pursued Abel, his brother.
And God said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?"
He answered saying, "Am I, then, my brother's keeper?"
God said to Cain, "Listen! The voice of your brother's blood is crying up to me! You have sinned with your mouth. It will return to you: anyone who kills Cain will let loose seven vengeances, and you will exist groaning and trembling upon the earth."
And Adam knew his female counterpart Eve, and she became pregnant, and bore Seth to Adam. And she said, "I have borne another man through God, in place of Abel." Again Eve became pregnant, and she bore Norea. And she said, "He has begotten on me a virgin as an assistance for many generations of mankind." She is the virgin whom the forces did not defile.
Then mankind began to multiply and improve. The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deluge with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man to beast." But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to Noah, "Make yourself an ark from some wood that does not rot and hide in it - you and your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large – and set it upon Mount Sir."
Then Norea came to him, wanting to board the ark. And when he would not let her, she blew upon the ark and caused it to be consumed by fire. Again he made the ark, for a second time.
The rulers went to meet her, intending to lead her astray. Their supreme chief said to her, "Your mother Eve came to us." But Norea turned to them and said to them, "It is you who are the rulers of the darkness; you are accursed. And you did not know my mother; instead it was your female counterpart that you knew. For I am not your descendant; rather it is from the world above that I am come."
The arrogant ruler turned, with all his might, and his countenance came to be like (a) black [...]; he said to her presumptuously, "You must render service to us, as did also your mother Eve; for I have been given [...]." But Norea turned, with the might of [...]; and in a loud voice, she cried out up to the holy one, the God of the entirety, "Rescue me from the rulers of unrighteousness and save me from their clutches - forthwith!"
The (great) angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?"
Norea said, "Who are you?" The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her.
He said, "It is I who am Eleleth, sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit. I have been sent to speak with you and save you from the grasp of the lawless. And I shall teach you about your root."
(Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow. No, truly, my mouth cannot bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!
Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe."
But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities – how did they come into being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their force?"
And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.
Opening his eyes, he saw a vast quantity of matter without limit; and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And a voice came forth from above the realm of absolute power, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, 'god of the blind'.
And he said, "If any other thing exists before me, let it become visible to me!" And immediately Sophia stretched forth her finger and introduced light into matter; and she pursued it down to the region of chaos. And she returned up to her light; once again darkness [...] matter.
This ruler, by being androgynous, made himself a vast realm, an extent without limit. And he contemplated creating offspring for himself, and created for himself seven offspring, androgynous just like their parent. And he said to his offspring, "It is I who am god of the entirety."
And Zoe (Life), the daughter of Pistis Sophia, cried out and said to him, "You are mistaken, Sakla!" – for which the alternative name is Yaltabaoth. She breathed into his face, and her breath became a fiery angel for her; and that angel bound Yaldabaoth and cast him down into Tartaros below the abyss.
Now when his offspring Sabaoth saw the force of that angel, he repented and condemned his father and his mother, matter. He loathed her, but he sang songs of praise up to Sophia and her daughter Zoe. And Sophia and Zoe caught him up and gave him charge of the seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the forces, Sabaoth', since he is up above the forces of chaos, for Sophia established him.
Now when these (events) had come to pass, he made himself a huge four-faced chariot of cherubim, and infinitely many angels to act as ministers, and also harps and lyres. And Sophia took her daughter Zoe and had her sit upon his right to teach him about the things that exist in the eighth (heaven); and the angel of wrath she placed upon his left. Since that day, his right has been called 'life'; and the left has come to represent the unrighteousness of the realm of absolute power above. It was before your time that they came into being.
Now when Yaldabaoth saw him (Sabaoth) in this great splendor and at this height, he envied him; and the envy became an androgynous product, and this was the origin of envy. And envy engendered death; and death engendered his offspring and gave each of them charge of its heaven; and all the heavens of chaos became full of their multitudes. But it was by the will of the father of the entirety that they all came into being – after the pattern of all the things above – so that the sum of chaos might be attained.
"There, I have taught you about the pattern of the rulers; and the matter in which it was expressed; and their parent; and their universe."
But I said, "Sir, am I also from their matter?"
"You, together with your offspring, are from the primeval father; from above, out of the imperishable light, their souls are come. Thus the authorities cannot approach them, because of the spirit of truth present within them; and all who have become acquainted with this way exist deathless in the midst of dying mankind. Still, that sown element will not become known now. Instead, after three generations it will come to be known, and it has freed them from the bondage of the authorities' error."
Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"
He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent.
Then he will teach them about everything, and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.
Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element belongs.
Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their destruction, and their demons will lament their death.
Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit. They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety", and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy – holy – holy! Amen!'"
The Reality [Hypostasis] of the Rulers
[h=6]Selection made from James M. Robinson, ed., The Nag Hammadi Library, revised edition. HarperCollins, San Francisco, 1990.[/h]
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Emerald tablet of thoth
Far in the past before Atlantis existed, men there were who delved into darkness, using dark magic, calling up beings from the great deep below us. Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration, existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being. Only through man could they live in the world.
In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came. But some there were who remained, hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man. Lived they in Atlantis as shadows, but at times they appeared among men. Aye, when the blood was offered, for they came they to dwell among men.
In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man. Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.
But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic, able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent, able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.
Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth in a place that is open at times to the world. Unseen they walk among thee in places where the rites have been said. Again as time passes onward shall they take the semblance of men
Far in the past before Atlantis existed, men there were who delved into darkness, using dark magic, calling up beings from the great deep below us. Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration, existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being. Only through man could they live in the world.
In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came. But some there were who remained, hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man. Lived they in Atlantis as shadows, but at times they appeared among men. Aye, when the blood was offered, for they came they to dwell among men.
In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man. Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.
But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic, able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent, able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.
Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth in a place that is open at times to the world. Unseen they walk among thee in places where the rites have been said. Again as time passes onward shall they take the semblance of men
Skarekrow
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[h=1]Is the U.S. Backing Neo-Nazis in Ukraine?[/h]
Exposing troubling ties in the U.S. to overt Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine.
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine
Exposing troubling ties in the U.S. to overt Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine.
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine
muir
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Yeah they're supporting neo-nazis in ukraine and al qaeda in syria and all the while they say to their public that they don't work with 'terrorists'!
Both of those conflicts have the potential to bring about direct confrontation with russia and could spark something bigger
When kissinger says that in 10 years time there will be no more israel what does he mean?
Does he mean that the state of israel will no longer be viable and will collapse?
Does hw mean that the illuminati are plannign world war 3 and that israel is going to be in the direct firing line and will be totally obliterated (like the biblical prophesy of the armies of gog and magog)?
Does he mean that the new world order will be established and there will be no more nation ststes but rather a world government?
What does he mean?
These guys always have to announce things before they do them. It is part of the cosmic rules that the archons must tell people what they're going to do and get their consent before doing it; they take peoples inaction to mean that consent has been granted
So right there kissinger is saying that israel will be no more...so what are they planning? If i was an israeli i would be very nervous and i think they would be well advised to throw off the influence of the central bankers and make peace with their neighbours
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One method for viable space travel would be for them to map their brains onto computers within robots. This would overcome the frailties of the human body allowing space travel
But they are going to be selective about who's brains get mapped because they are and always have been eugenicists; unfortunatly the traits that they seme to admire are those of psychopathy so they would send forth into space a new colony of psychopathic robots
One problem with only mapping the brain is that the heart actually sends signals to the brain....but of course the psychopaths aren't interested in those kind of signals
They are really not responsible enough to be handling that sort of technology which is why the public need to make it all common ownership before they get too far along in their development
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Is the changing ethnic make up of israel the reason for kissingers statement?
The influx of africans and arabs to the state...
It interesting how israel thinks it is the only western country that doesn't need to embrace multiculturalism
[video=youtube;dPxv4Aff3IA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA#t=479[/video]
The influx of africans and arabs to the state...
It interesting how israel thinks it is the only western country that doesn't need to embrace multiculturalism
[video=youtube;dPxv4Aff3IA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA#t=479[/video]
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Why doesnt anyone discuss eugenics? I think that's an important topic but its taboo.
Also the different radical family planning measures.
I'm actually in favour of a set number of unplanned pregnancies resulting in automatic sterilisation or the claiming of benefits over a set term limit requiring sterilisation or a single one off payment available to anyone who voluntarily sterilises themselves who has genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders.
Although that's the tip of the ice berg, I favour the automatic provision of contraceptive implants to the female population between the ages of their late teens to mid to late twenties or early thirties, until such time as a similar implant can be devised for the male population then I would favour its provision to everyone of a particular age, this would be a programme that any conscientious objectors could opt out of and I'd be fine with that, most of the accidential pregnancies which generate the most social problems and cause the most misery are a consequence of populations who neglect but generally admit that things such as contraception are good ideas, who are impulse or "spontaneous" if you're being generous. Ideas about so called "libertarian paternalism" have already suggested opting out rather than opting in leads to more up take.
Anyway, before this becomes a post which belongs in my things to make life better thread, the point is all these things are taboo and they shouldnt be.
Also the different radical family planning measures.
I'm actually in favour of a set number of unplanned pregnancies resulting in automatic sterilisation or the claiming of benefits over a set term limit requiring sterilisation or a single one off payment available to anyone who voluntarily sterilises themselves who has genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders.
Although that's the tip of the ice berg, I favour the automatic provision of contraceptive implants to the female population between the ages of their late teens to mid to late twenties or early thirties, until such time as a similar implant can be devised for the male population then I would favour its provision to everyone of a particular age, this would be a programme that any conscientious objectors could opt out of and I'd be fine with that, most of the accidential pregnancies which generate the most social problems and cause the most misery are a consequence of populations who neglect but generally admit that things such as contraception are good ideas, who are impulse or "spontaneous" if you're being generous. Ideas about so called "libertarian paternalism" have already suggested opting out rather than opting in leads to more up take.
Anyway, before this becomes a post which belongs in my things to make life better thread, the point is all these things are taboo and they shouldnt be.
say what
I like soft things...so soft!
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Wow.
I mean, for a culture that has so much historical disempowerment associated with it- I can't believe they'd do this. The Holocaust started like this.
And to call them 'infiltrators' - I don't understand....they're not the ones beating and raping innocent people. The violence and hate is directed towards them.
I am so shocked. However, this is not just happening there...heck, look at the American / Mexican boarder...even in the Eastern world there is resistance to multiculturalism.
say what
I like soft things...so soft!
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It's not taboo- there's just a lot against it. Have you seen the impacts of eugenics? Of required sterization?
Up until the late 70's, 'voluntary' sterilization still happened in Canada....except the 'voluntary' part was loosely defined, in that those who were deemed (as you say) who have "genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders" were taken to be sterilized regardless of if they wanted to or not. They didn't have a choice because (a) they didn't know better, and (b) the shouldn't be allowed to reproduce because it would hinder society.
Do you know what happened? People were tortured, imprisoned in sanatoriums, raped, abandoned, brutalized....we're talking about people who were born with severe depression, a physical abnormality, down syndrome- being taken to a hospital, subjected to an UNNECESSARY medical procedure that IMPEDES THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE A CHILD.
Some of these people that have "genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders" will be (and are) the BEST parents a child could have.
Our population doesn't need perfect genetics or neurological predispositions- what they need is empathy, compassion, and understanding....
I don't think environments and ideas such as this (see below) fosters those qualities...
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Like who, for example?
say what
I like soft things...so soft!
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Mr. Robertson who was born with cystic fibrosis. He lived down the street from me growing up and had 3 children. Their household was warm, loving, and inviting.
I volunteered at a community inclusion house for individual with mental disabilities- and many of them were loving, sociable and caring- qualities that I think are critical for parents.
[video=youtube;kWuRnmRvEBc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWuRnmRvEBc[/video]
I would say Monica and David would make good parents.
People put the argument out there that because they may require more social support and assistance to maintain jobs or live independently, that this equates to them being inadequate parents. But how many people rely on their parents to provide child care? How many people are on welfare? Allowing individuals, such as Monica and David, to have access to services that can help their independence is important for them, and can provide an environment that they can flourish in.
Population sterilization takes away a human's right to have control and own their own body. Enforcing sterilization on just a select group brings issues up on who should and shouldn't be sterilized, and who is "fit" for societies definition of "normal". If we begin to eliminate the rights of individuals that 'we' think are genetically inadequate, then we open the door for a range of other determinants of normal.
Colour blindess is a genetic disorder (same as Turner syndrome, Down syndrome, Sickle-cell disease), if we say a genetic disorder should require you to be sterile, then think of all the capable, loving and amazing people that wouldn't have children today.
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The birthing of many children is often related to POVERTY so the answer is not to sterislise people it is to alleviate poverty
The people in the west actually use FAR MORE resources and energy per capita than the people in the majority world countries so perhaps we need to stop the oil cartels from suppressing clean energies so that the world can benefit from them
Concerning the wastefullness of the west perhaps we need to look at our culture and the ideology of consumerism as well as how we build things to break (inbuilt obsolescence) so that people need to buy more of them and change all that so that we place our focus on meeting the needs of people instead of the wants of people
If we can alleviate poverty, have a well educated population who are informed and fully involved in the decision making process we will have a stable and sustainable society
The book 'the spirit level' looks into the damaging effects of inequality on our societies so many of the problems that people identify could be resolved by making society more equal
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Isn't it insane?
The israeli jews can't seem to see the irony of imprisoning people in camps on the basis of race! They have effectively turned gaza into a giant concentration camp
In any other country we call people trying to get in 'immigrants' but in israel they are 'infiltrators' because they are absolutely paranoid about having their racial DNA watered down; they're obsessed with race
They have harped on about the holocaust which was perpetrated on the basis of race as an excuse for their continuing brutalisation of the palestinean people yet they are trying to build a country on the basis of race!
Its staggering how they can't see their own hyprocrisy
They are behaving like the nazis and their ruling party is a right wing fascist party
There's an uncomfortable truth about israel which more and more people are waking upto in the US (the rest of the world knows it already) which is that zionism is built on foundations of racism
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It's not taboo- there's just a lot against it. Have you seen the impacts of eugenics? Of required sterization?
Up until the late 70's, 'voluntary' sterilization still happened in Canada....except the 'voluntary' part was loosely defined, in that those who were deemed (as you say) who have "genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders" were taken to be sterilized regardless of if they wanted to or not. They didn't have a choice because (a) they didn't know better, and (b) the shouldn't be allowed to reproduce because it would hinder society.
Do you know what happened? People were tortured, imprisoned in sanatoriums, raped, abandoned, brutalized....we're talking about people who were born with severe depression, a physical abnormality, down syndrome- being taken to a hospital, subjected to an UNNECESSARY medical procedure that IMPEDES THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE A CHILD.
Some of these people that have "genetic or neurological predispositions to illness, weakness, addiction or attachment disorders" will be (and are) the BEST parents a child could have.
Our population doesn't need perfect genetics or neurological predispositions- what they need is empathy, compassion, and understanding....
I don't think environments and ideas such as this (see below) fosters those qualities...
Just because ideas have been employed by corrupt individuals or regimes or evil people doesnt, in my view, make the ideas wicked per se.
I'll explain, libertarians are fond of saying that since a welfare state was introduced in Germany that welfare states much be fascist/Nazi and therefore if you support welfare states you are a Nazi, that's reductionist and absurd, although that's the logic and I think most of the criticism of things such as eugenics are too similar for my liking.
I'm not talking about anything involuntary at all, I'm talking about information, if people had the complete picture of their and their partners genetic compatibility and the likelihood of their offspring being one way or another they could make decisions accordingly and I would hope it would lead to better decisions than happen in the abscence of that information, what if people discovered that at the genetic level they were close to being cousins? I dont mean that there is any possibility of incest, definitely not deliberately so, but at the genetic level there can be similarity, especially in societies were there could be unknown infidelity just one or two generations removed from the present generation you know? Not everyone has a genogram or their geneology worked out or would bother but for those that could or would wouldnt it be a good idea? I know that some ethnic groups which prefer to marry within their own ethnicity do this sort of thing already, like some Jewish communities.
The other incentives I mentioned are really to do with the sorts of people who are self-reportedly or notably impulsive, neglectful etc. in the main but perhaps also relevent in the case of vulnerable individuals or populations, you're right in mentioning that those people can fall prey to well intended social policies and the authorities but sadly, in most societies, there are reprehensible individuals who will exploit them or harm them just as quickly.
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I agree with all those sorts of structural adjustments you're talking about but I think that even if those were made eugenics still makes good sense.
Individual and personal costs and benefits remain in reproduction despite or aswell as those structural questions/issues.