Clinton vs Trump, Trump vs Clinton

Eventhorizon said:
She is a criminal and not liking her has nothing to do with her being a woman. She is a liar, thief, manipulator. She is an ugly ugly person on the inside. I rank her as having and average IQ but a heart that makes it easy for her to take advantage of people.
She might get to be President, that remains to be seen but even if she does it will be short lived.
Youve made up a lot of stories in your own head about why people dont like her.
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A criminal? Did I miss something? I would hold off on that until they actually find her criminally liable for something. If they do, then let them lock her up. But until then...

And your own opinion of her intelligence is irrelevant but I can assure you that it is well above average. As for her heart, you're probably way off on that too. But whatevs.

I'm sure there are other reasons people do not like her, but none of those reasons have been proven to be jail worthy.
 
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Anywhere But Here said:
This is what happens when men are afraid of a woman that is smarter and braver than all of them put together. .
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No, it's not and that is kinda a gross statement about men. Obama himself said that Comey wasn't messing with the election. This isn't men afraid of some supposed smart woman who can't answer a tweet without 9 people telling her what to say.

Think about that. Read between the lines. Obama knows what Comey knows. She's done. Comey had nothing to gain from this. He can't protect her from what was found this time. She will likely be indicted and she will be impeached if she is elected. This is about to get really embarrassing for everyone.
 
John Green should be president. Here's why. Anyone who will rationally discuss health care proposals would make a much better president than either of the current candidates.
However, since he's not going to win, I will just say that I loathe Trump slightly less because at least he didn't delete emails of utmost importance to national security from an illegal private server, which I'm pretty sure is treasonous. Please note that I don't actually support Trump.
 
Sandie33 said:
Chrimy....how can anybody rack up so many dang emails? Queen Hilliary must be a chatty-cathy.....:m075:
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I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who used to work with a woman, whose dog groomer is best friends with a guy who reads wikileaks. All the emails are from her to some guy at @tech support ? Something to do with not being able to get her printer to link with her laptop. I'm not going to go through all the redundant stuff about women being no good with IT cos that's all baloney. Basically she had a crush on this guy at @tech support or something. The printer was clearly just an excuse...

ask @Anywhere But Here if you want. but that's what really happened.

Lost in the fog, imho but the investigation is into "her assistants emails' sorry I am a pedant.

I'm old fashioned, but I think there should be a trial or something (not just ducking her in the local pond to see if she floats) before it goes to a jury to decide if she did anything wrong. It's called 'due process' or whatever. If it ever gets that far, which I strongly suspect it won't. All joking apart it seems like a lot of this leads back to Russian hackers, and the things I've read about Russian funding for the UK Brexit vote, as well as the seemingly large number of Russian billionaires buying property in London, and living here, makes me a bit uneasy. Especially given Mr Trumps deeply disturbing remarks about how good Putin is.

Let's all agree on this at least Putin is NOT good. Not remotely good. Syria, Aleppo, children being killed, bombing hospitals not good.

The head of MI5 gave an unprecedented interview to The Guardian today in the UK which they detailed their unease about the growing Russian cyber activity and destabilisation of the West generally. So I'm not kidding around for once. I wish I was.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...e-russia-a-growing-threat-to-uk-says-mi5-head

Finally on a much brighter note, @Milktoast Bandit has launched a belated bid for The Presidency. It's a game changer. I put him just ahead of Bill Murray as the best compromise candidate for this election. He has my full support.
 
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CindyLou said:
No, it's not and that is kinda a gross statement about men. Obama himself said that Comey wasn't messing with the election. This isn't men afraid of some supposed smart woman who can't answer a tweet without 9 people telling her what to say.

Think about that. Read between the lines. Obama knows what Comey knows. She's done. Comey had nothing to gain from this. He can't protect her from what was found this time. She will likely be indicted and she will be impeached if she is elected. This is about to get really embarrassing for everyone.
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I did not say anything about Comey. I have no problem with what is going on and I think he is just doing his job. If something comes up then let them nail her to the wall. But I doubt anything will.

And you may find it to be a "gross statement" (gross it is) but it is definitely an accurate one when referring to the Republican men that began this crusade against her twenty plus years ago and have kept it going out of hate for a woman that doesn't 'know her place'. And now? Now she wants to be president?! They will have no such thing! Bring out the stakes and burn her, right? First the people elect a black president (how dare them) as if that wasn't bad enough, and now they want to torture them with a woman president?!?! Especially one that is smarter than them all combined??? Pure insanity! (Proceeds to elect most racist, sexist, bigoted, insecure, lying con artist, piece of trash, Trump). That makes total sense really.

And Obama is right. Comey is not messing with the election. He is doing his job. There is no lines to read between. He knows they won't find shit because, let's be honest, if there were something then it would have been found by now. The Republicans need to put down those torches already. It's getting old.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Hillary work her butt off? Like she did when she couldn't be bothered to approve the request for more security in Bengahzi or couldnt be found while they were under attack and then lied about it? Granted the lie was supported by the Whitehouse but still.
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Ummm...Congressional GOP denied requests for more security funding for Benghazi.
Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: ‘You Have To Prioritize Things’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

What does Trump really think?
Beats the shit out of me...
 
Anywhere But Here said:
Isn't it crazy?
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How about the waterboarding and sanctioned torture done at Gitmo and other CIA “black sites” around the world?
Not one is upset.
The supposed 9/11 mastermind just had to have rectal surgery because he was “fed rectally” (which is not a real thing either btw) so frequently that it wreaked his asshole. Not saying that someone who has done terrible things deserves even “nice” treatment...but humane, yes.
But where is the accountability for calls made that are easily tied to Bush and Cheney personally?
No one is chanting “lock them up”, though they should be.
And here we’re in a huff over some repetitive emails that Clinton is pushing to have released...sounds very criminal.
Not like the 22 fucking MILLION the Bush cabinet “lost”.
Again...hypocritical BS.

One can just hope that the referendum to repeal Citizen's United passes.
 
James said:
I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who used to work with a woman, whose dog groomer is best friends with a guy who reads wikileaks. All the emails are from her to some guy at @tech support ? Something to do with not being able to get her printer to link with her laptop. I'm not going to go through all the redundant stuff about women being no good with IT cos that's all baloney. Basically she had a crush on this guy at @tech support or something. The printer was clearly just an excuse...

ask @Anywhere But Here if you want. but that's what really happened.

Lost in the fog, imho but the investigation is into "her assistants emails' sorry I am a pedant.

I'm old fashioned, but I think there should be a trial or something (not just ducking her in the local pond to see if she floats) before it goes to a jury to decide if she did anything wrong. It's called 'due process' or whatever. If it ever gets that far, which I strongly suspect it won't. All joking apart it seems like a lot of this leads back to Russian hackers, and the things I've read about Russian funding for the UK Brexit vote, as well as the seemingly large number of Russian billionaires buying property in London, and living here, makes me a bit uneasy. Especially given Mr Trumps deeply disturbing remarks about how good Putin is.

Let's all agree on this at least Putin is NOT good. Not remotely good. Syria, Aleppo, children being killed, bombing hospitals not good.

The head of MI5 gave an unprecedented interview to The Guardian today in the UK which they detailed their unease about the growing Russian cyber activity and destabilisation of the West generally. So I'm not kidding around for once. I wish I was.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...e-russia-a-growing-threat-to-uk-says-mi5-head

Finally on a much brighter note, @Milktoast Bandit has launched a belated bid for The Presidency. It's a game changer. I put him just ahead of Bill Murray as the best compromise candidate for this election. He has my full support.
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...by the sounds of what you're saying @James, the rumors I've heard here about the "Russian Spraul" being global may hold some truth. You're not alone in your nervousness. I'm just hanging in and waiting to see what Tuesday brings.

As for MT-Bandit (@Milktoast Bandit) running for the Presidency I'd vote for him :-P. Back in the infancy of my joining the forum I tried to light a spark in @Skarekrow to run for office...and, I dunno @Eventhorizon would do great in politics too I think. Electing @ruji as first Vice may be a good systems check ...just my thoughts :-)
 
Sandie33 said:
...by the sounds of what you're saying @James, the rumors I've heard here about the "Russian Spraul" being global may hold some truth. You're not alone in your nervousness. I'm just hanging in and waiting to see what Tuesday brings.

As for MT-Bandit (@Milktoast Bandit) running for the Presidency I'd vote for him :p. Back in the infancy of my joining the forum I tried to light a spark in @Skarekrow to run for office...and, I dunno @Eventhorizon would do great in politics too I think. Electing @ruji as first Vice may be a good systems check ...just my thoughts :)
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I love those suggestions lol. I mentioned the russia thing, as I think it's worth noting. In mentioning the russian aspect, in no way do I want the UK to avoid responsibilty for the way we voted on Brexit, but I think we've 'been played'. The pound has tanked (down 18% with room for worse I think) and there has been an ugly rise of racism and violence that is very worrisome. I'd already read up on some of the rumors, but for a sitting MI5 chief to give an interview like this (they have never done it before) and to of all papers The Guardian, (a left leaning critic of MI5) is almost astonishing.

To me, it's a very real threat, and Putin is tyrant with a highly aggressive agenda. What happened in the Ukraine ought to be a wake up call to all of Europe. His oppression and murder, of all internal journalistic attempts to scrutinize his government is a scary thing. Whoever America elects I hope they are fully on board with the kind of threat he poses. I don't mean to be critical of Obama, but in Syria, western confusion and hesistancy has let Putin dictate and prop up a horrible regime. Sorry this is getting off the thread, but all part of the jigsaw in my view.
 
CindyLou said:
No, it's not and that is kinda a gross statement about men. Obama himself said that Comey wasn't messing with the election. This isn't men afraid of some supposed smart woman who can't answer a tweet without 9 people telling her what to say.

Think about that. Read between the lines. Obama knows what Comey knows. She's done. Comey had nothing to gain from this. He can't protect her from what was found this time. She will likely be indicted and she will be impeached if she is elected. This is about to get really embarrassing for everyone.
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I doubt she would be impeached. Maybe on year 7 they will get around to voting to impeach.
 
James said:
Finally on a much brighter note, @Milktoast Bandit has launched a belated bid for The Presidency. It's a game changer. I put him just ahead of Bill Murray as the best compromise candidate for this election. He has my full support
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