Is the Ku Klux Klan an American tradition?

https://deanhenderson.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/bnl-p-2-the-gnomes-of-zurich/

[h=1]BNL, P-2 & the Gnomes of Zurich[/h]
Banca Nacionale de Lavaro (BNL) had its US offices at the posh Peachtree Center in Atlanta. From 1983-1989 BNL busied itself financing Saddam Hussein’s arms procurement efforts in tandem with the Iraqi Central Bank and Rafidain Bank of Iraq, which had numbered accounts at Bank of America, Bank of New York, Chase Manhattan and Manufacturers Hanover Trust. BNL’s clearing agent on all transactions was Morgan Guaranty Trust.
When Saddam defaulted on these US government-backed loans, the multinational corporations which benefited from BNL loans were paid in full, while US taxpayers were charged $347 million. [1]
BNL was Italy’s largest bank. Its headquarters was across from the US Embassy in Rome. The Rothschild-controlled Bank of America was first known as Bank of Italy. After founding the sleazy Bank of Credit & Commerce International (BCCI), it helped BNL arm Saddam Hussein.
A report by the Italian Senate stated that BNL Rome ran the Iraqi weapons procurement program and that BNL Atlanta was launched by “some circles in the American political-military-industrial complex”. BNL was 96%-owned by the Italian government. It often transferred funds to Iraq using BCCI, where Saudi intelligence officers laundered drug money for the Medellin Cartel.
A 1981 Italian investigation revealed that five top BNL Rome executives, including director general Alberto Ferrari, were members of the Italian P-2 Freemason Lodge. [2] P-2 had a penchant for working with South American dictators, fascist death squads and drug traffickers.
P-2’s activities affected the European continent as well. P-2 Grand Orient Lodge leader Robert Calvi controlled Banco Ambrosiano. Calvi was once invited to John Connelly’s Texas ranch where the two founded another P-2 front called Committee for the Defense of the Mediterranean.
Calvi was referred to as “God’s banker”. When Pope John Paul I launched an investigation into Banco Amrosiano and its connection to the Vatican bank Instituto per le Opere di Religione (IOR), he was found dead only thirty-four days after becoming the Holy See.
Calvi was shortly thereafter found hanging from scaffolding beneath Blackfriars Bridge in London with $15,000 cash in his pockets and a brick (a Masonic symbol) hanging around his neck. Hours earlier Calvi’s secretary, Graziella Corrocher, was pushed through a 4th story window at Ambrosiano’s Milan headquarters. She kept the books for the P-2 Freemasons. [3]
Nixon Treasury Secretary David Kennedy’s good friend Michelle Sindona was Robert Calvi’s partner at Banco Amrosiano. Sindona funneled CIA cash to the Vatican and to European Christian Democratic Parties, which the CIA much preferred to the Socialists. Sindona teamed up with IOR and the Vatican’s chief US banker Continental Illinois to buy Milan-based Banca Privata Finanziara (BPF) and Geneva-based Banque de Financement.
The consortium launched Moneyrex in Rome, which over 850 international banks used to move Italian mafia and P-2 heroin proceeds out of Italy. Much of this was laundered through the Vatican to Switzerland. [4]
Sindona had close ties to the Gambino crime family. He looted Franklin National Bank which, according to former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp’s book The Franklin Cover-up, was at the epicenter of an international pedophile ring.
In 1969 Sindona was financial adviser to Pope Paul VI and the Vatican Bank became Ambrosiano’s biggest shareholder. [5] In 1986 Sindona was convicted for ordering the death of estate liquidator Giorgio Ambrosoli, who was shot in 1979 after finding evidence of criminal activity while working at Sindona’s home. Two days after being sentenced to life in prison, Sindona was found dead in his jail cell from cyanide poisoning. Just before his death Sindona stated, “They are afraid I could reveal some very delicate information that they don’t want divulged.”[6]
In 1967 Continental Illinois sent $4 million through BPF to finance a CIA-sponsored right-wing coup in Greece that toppled the Socialists and gave rise to the November 17 underground left, which has since killed both US and British military officers and bankers. During the 1972 elections Continental used BPF to channel $10 million in CIA funds to the Italian Christian Democrats. In 1973 Continental CEO David Kennedy joined the board of FASCO, the Liechtenstein holding company which controlled Banco Ambrosiano. FASCO was a CIA conduit for funding the Italian P-2 and had close ties with Gulf & Western Corporation, controlled by Chiquita cocaine moguls Carl Lindner and Max Fischer.
Continental made frequent loans to the Four Horsemen and was conduit for Chicago diocese funds controlled by CIA asset Bishop Paul Marcinkus, who helped the Company bankroll the Polish solidarity movement and now presides over the National Bank of Cicero – the BCCI immaculate resurrection based in the “Al Capone land” Chicago suburb of Cicero. P-2 leader Calvi was paymaster to the Polish solidarity movement and helped the Vatican buy US properties, including the Watergate complex. When Continental went under in 1973 Bank of America took control of it for pennies on the dollar at a bankruptcy auction.
The Vatican’s secretive Opus Dei, often referred to as the “saintly Mafia” was behind the ascent of Polish Cardinal Karol Wojtyla to Pope John Paul II. The new Pope launched an Opus Dei/Vatican offensive to roll back Latin American liberation theology movements and East European communism. Robert Calvi had been on his way to meet with Opus Dei financiers the night his brick-laden body was discovered.
In its January 2004 issue, Counterpunch revealed that US Supreme Court Justice Anton Scalia is a member of Opus Dei.
Further south Calvi P-2 associate Stephen Delle Chiaie founded Patria y Libertad in Chile. Delle Chiaie met frequently with Chilean fascist Augusto Pinochet, while P-2 worked with the CIA Trak II program to overthrow socialist President Salvador Allende.
Patria y Libertad and Delle Chiaie associate Michael Townley delivered P-2 violence to the streets of Washington in 1973 when he planted a car bomb killing Pinochet critic Orlando Letelier and Ronni Moffit of the leftist Institute for Policy Studies. Letelier was on a hit list that was part of the same Operation Condor under which Chilean DINA agent Carlos Cardoen was smuggling weapons to Iraq.
Others on the CIA hit list were Chilean General Carlos Prats, Argentinean nationalist Juan Torres, Uruguayan politicians Hector Gutierrez and Zelmar Michelini, and Bolivian General Joaquin Zenteno. [7]
CIA Director George Bush, who’d already helped cover up the JFK hit, now suppressed evidence of DINA role (and possibly his own) in the Letelier and Moffit assassinations. The bloodshed was far worse in Chile where Pinochet unleashed a reign of terror on the Chilean left.
Lucio Gelli, a pro-Franco Spanish Civil War veteran, was P-2’s founder. He helped the OSS lay down the “rat line”, by which Nazi war criminals escaped to South America. Gelli was an early version of Carlos Cardoen, negotiating numerous arms for oil deals on behalf of the Four Horsemen and CIA. He served as economic consultant to Argentine strongman Juan Peron and was Ambassador of the Knights of Malta to Uruguay, a major South American drug money laundry where Vatican chum Umberto Ortolani owns a major bank. Gelli was a business partner of Klaus Barbie and an honored guest at the 1980 inauguration of President Reagan. Gelli claimed to be friendly with George Bush – honorary P-2 member and 33rd Degree Mason.
By 1981 Italian authorities had uncovered what one court document described as “a secret structure (that) had the incredible capacity to control a state’s institutions to the point of virtually becoming a state-within-a-state”. In a search of Lucio Gelli’s home, police found a list of fellow Freemason collaborators that included three cabinet ministers, forty members of Parliament, forty-three military generals, eight admirals, intelligence heads, police chiefs of four major cities, industrialists, bankers, diplomats and celebrities. [8]
They also found a document titled The Strategy of Tension, which proposed fabricating terror to discredit the leftist Italian Red Brigades and to compel Italians to demand a more authoritarian fascist government. The plan evolved from Gladio, a secret NATO strategy implemented after WWII that advocated an alliance between the mafia, CIA, Vatican and Knights of Malta.
In 1980 P-2 operatives bombed a Bologna train station killing 85 people, blaming it on the Red Brigades. In 1978 Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro was kidnapped and murdered – again allegedly by the Red Brigades. Both Moro’s widow and one his closest associates say Moro was told by Henry Kissinger to halt his stabilizing policies or “you will dearly pay for it”. Kissinger was called as a character witness by ex-Italian Prime Minister Guilion Andreotti – a close friend of Lucio Gelli’s – who was being tried for mob involvement. [9]
A London Independent article stated that Moro’s murder may have been a CIA/P-2 hit.
P-2 financed Manzur al-Kassar’s top-secret CIA COREA heroin trafficking ring in Syria. The Italian media reported that P-2 was financed through a Panamanian company called Amitalia and claimed that part of the purpose for the US invasion of Panama was to destroy documents connecting George Bush, the CIA and P-2 Freemasons to the Lockerbie bombing.
P-2 recruited high-ranking South American military officials, ran guns and drugs, and supported both extreme right and extreme left parties, utilizing this “strategy of tension” to create a climate of fear conducive to military coups which would bring “law and order” fascists to power. [10]
The Vatican’s Opus Dei had strong ties to P-2 and Patria y Libertad South American fascist movements. The CIA and P-2 propped up the narco-terrorist regime of Alberto Fujimori in Peru during the 1990s, through their Peruvian surrogate the National Intelligence Service, whose acronym is quite appropriately SIN.
Fujimori launched a state terror campaign against the Peruvian left, temporarily obliterating two Indian rebel groups, the Shining Path and Tupac Amaru. In 1991 SIN killed seventeen civilians in the poor Lima suburb of Barrios Altos. Two years later SIN disappeared nine university students and a professor in La Cantuta. The head of SIN was Vladimiro Montesinos, who defended drug traffickers in court as a sideline.
In 1996 Tupac Amaru rebels seized the Japanese Ambassador’s residence in Lima and took several hostages. Fujimori’s chief negotiator during the crisis was Bishop Juan Luis Cipriani – a right-wing Fujimori backer and member of Opus Dei. SIN and Peruvian Special Forces tunneled into the house and ended the month-old standoff in typically bloody fashion, killing all the kidnappers.
One hostage who was released early was Kieran Metcalfe, a Canadian mining executive. Metcalfe said of his captors, “I’m not sure if anybody took sides with the people involved, but I think many people developed some respect for these people (Tupac Amaru)”.
In 2001 SIN Chief Montesinos was found in the pay of drug traffickers and forced to flee to Panama to avoid prosecution. President Fujimori knew he was next and fled to Japan – his ancestral home – where he was quickly given a teaching appointment at Kyoto University. The new Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo requested that Japan extradite Fujimori to stand trial. The Japanese government refused.
Toledo, a former World Bank executive, became increasingly unpopular due to his privatization agenda. Earlier this year Fujimori’s daughter ran for President of Peru. She was soundly defeated by the left-leaning Ollanta Humala.
In 1993 Argentine President Carlos Menem – a close friend of Citigroup and the Bush family – resigned amidst a major drug scandal. Menem was just the latest in a series of crooks to run Argentina, long a favorite drop point for Southeast Asian HSBC-financed heroin entering Latin America.
In 1968 the CIA began training police and right-wing death squads in Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina to attack leftist revolutionary groups. The region became an Orwellian nexus of bloody fascist dictators and CIA/P-2 drug running.
The Argentine juntas were particularly brutal. The CIA used August Ricord’s Corsican heroin mafia to infiltrate leftist movements. In Argentina Ricord smuggler Christian David infiltrated the Tupamoros revolutionary group which kidnapped CIA torture experts Dan Mitrione and Claude Fry. Mitrione was executed. [11]
David recently stated from his prison cell that he was offered a contract to assassinate John F. Kennedy, but turned it down. He said old money Sicilian banking families ordered the Kennedy hit.
In 1997 Mothers of Plazo de Mayo – an Argentine group of mothers whose sons and daughters died in that country’s CIA-sponsored genocide – accused the Vatican’s Envoy to Argentina from 1974-1980 – Pio Laghi – of playing a role in the tortures, disappearances and murders of their children. Laghi was later Vatican Envoy to the US and currently heads the Congregation of Catholic Education, which oversees Catholic schools worldwide. [12]
Decades of drug corruption left the Argentine economy in shambles. In late 2001 Argentina defaulted on its $132 billion debt to international banks led by Citigroup. Argentine protestors attacked banks, the Argentine peso was severely devalued and the IMF issued its typical austerity demands. Five Presidents later, Argentina has yet to comply with IMF demands and remains cut off from international lending.
The directorate that presides over the P-2 Freemasons who terrorized South America and armed Saddam through BNL is based in Switzerland at the Alpina Lodge. Members of the Alpina Lodge Directorate include Stephan Delle Chiaie, Lucio Gelli, Club of Rome founder and depopulation advocate Aurelio Peccei and Henry Kissinger.
The Alpina Lodge is joined by every Swiss banker worth his salt. The Alpina power-brokers are often referred to as the Gnomes of Zurich. The Alpina Lodge, Banco Ambrosiano, P-2 and Lucio Gelli have all been linked to Priory of Sion through a pro-Nazi French group known as Alpha Galates. [13]
P-2 predecessor P-1 was founded by Guiseppe Mazzini, the 33rd Degree Grand Master Mason of the Grand Oriente Lodge in Rome, whose name is synonymous with mafia. Mazzini’s P-1 did not consist of the illiterate Italian restaurant goons which the US corporate media likes to pass off as the mafia, ala The Godfather, The Sopranos, etc.
Rather P-1, P-2 and Freemason lodges worldwide – which house the real mafia – are chartered by the delicate tea-sipping white glove hands of the Duke of Kent in London – who answers directly to his cousin Queen Elizabeth II, the Bush family relative who presides over the British House of Windsor. [14]
Numerous Priory of Sion documents housed in the French National Library were published by the Alpina Lodge. French journalist Mathieu Paolio claims to have seen these same documents in the Alpina library. A short time after publishing a book detailing the Priory’s interest in the Merovingan bloodline, Paolio was reassigned to Israel where he was executed as a spy.
Other Priory of Sion documents which list genealogies for the Merovingan dynasty were held at Silver Triangle player Lloyd’s of London until 1979. All Englishmen connected to the Priory are executives at a huge insurance firm known alternately as Guardian Assurance and Guardian Royal Exchange Association. [15] All have aristocratic titles or are connected to international banking, the Churchill family or British Intelligence.
 
Police freemasons meet in secret to create policy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...e-attack-on-David-Camerons-riot-response.html


[h=1]Freemasons in the police leading the attack on David Cameron's riot response[/h] [h=2]Leading police officers have set up a national Masonic lodge where they can meet in secret in defiance of fears about the influence of the secret society on the criminal justice system.[/h]
The founding members include senior officials from the Police Federation, the police staff association, which is currently fighting the Government over its plans to cut budgets.

The new Masonic lodge is led by John Tully, a Metropolitan Police officer, who has given numerous interviews in recent days accusing the Prime Minister of "fighting violence, arson and looting on our city streets with sound-bites".

Other founder members include officers from the Metropolitan Police, Essex Police, Thames Valley Police and from other forces including Northumbria, Dyfed Powys, South Wales, South Yorkshire and even a high ranking officer from the Royal Gibraltar Police.

The "Sine Favore" Lodge was opened despite the conclusions of a Parliamentary inquiry which warned of public fears that "Freemasonry can have an unhealthy influence on the criminal justice system".

The inquiry followed questions about masonic involvement in the abandonment of an investigation into a shoot-to-kill policy in Northern Ireland and with the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad, which was disbanded after evidence of police malpractice.

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Membership is open to all serving and retired officers across Britain and others working alongside the police, including lawyers, criminologists and even the financial advisers who manage officers' retirement plans.
The idea for the new police Masonic lodge grew out of a series unofficial get-togethers in hotel bars during Police Federation annual conferences.
Masonic rules require members to do all they can to support each other, to look after each other and to keep each others' lawful secrets.
New members of the so-called Brotherhood are blindfolded, a hangman's noose placed around their necks and they are warned their throat will be slit and their tongue torn out if they break their oath. Critics argue this could put them at odds with discharging their duty to serve the public.
The inquiry by the Home Affairs Select Committee in 1998 called for a public register of police officers who joined the Freemasons, although in the end the then Labour government proposed that officers could make voluntary disclosures about their membership. Few did.
The new "Sine Favore" lodge, is named after the Latin motto of the Police Federation, "Without Fear, Without Favour".
The founders include Police Federation Treasurer Martyn Mordecai, John Giblin, chairman of the Federation's Sergeants Central Committee, and Steve Williams, general secretary of the Federation's Inspectors Central Committee.
Earlier this year Mr Giblin told the Federation's annual conference that government ministers "hate the police service" and wanted to "destroy" it.
Other founding members include solicitor Tristan Hallam, a personal injury lawyer who specialises, according to his firm Russell Jones and Walker, in "road traffic accidents and public liability cases for both private clients and associations including the Police Federation".
Mr Hallam said: "Membership of any organisation is a personal choice. Russell Jones & Walker are aware of my membership."
Stewart Imbimbo, an ex-Thames Valley police officer and now a senior official at Milton Keynes council, Robert Taylor, a financial adviser, Eric Misselke, director of a police credit union which provides cheap loans, savings accounts and insurance, and the Metropolitan Police's resident criminologist Dr Attilio Grandani.
Dr Grandani sits on the Metropolitan Police Authority's equality and diversity sub-committee and is behind the Met's new controversial statistical-led policing model, which aims to combat areas of high crime as opposed to more thinly spread bobbies-on-the-beat territorial policing.
Lodge number 9856 was officially opened by a senior Masonic official, Russell Race. He is the Metropolitan Grand Master, head of the Grand Lodge of London, a corporate financier and chairman of a construction firm behind the huge Westfield shopping centre in west London and The Pinnacle office development, which, when complete, will be the tallest building in the City of London.
The lodge is based at 10 Duke Street in central London, which is also the headquarters of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree, one of the most important and mysterious bodies in international Masonic circles, which has an elite membership of only 75 people.
The building, known as Grand East by Masons, contains the "Black Room", the "Red Room" and a "Chamber of Death", used for Masonic rituals.
The Police Federation last night refused to discuss whether any of its officials had disclosed their involvement with Freemasonary.
A spokesman said: "Being a member of any organisation is a matter for the individual, so long as membership of that organisation does not compromise their duties and responsibilities as a police officer."
Lodge Secretary Mr Tully, vice chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation refused to comment.
 
Muir you really need to rebrand yourself. You post so much information and it's always either a wall of text, too long to read, or a 40-80 minute video. I'm not sure you've ever gotten me to read one of your "proofs". Could you at least put some work into developing sound bytes and a literary hook for your audience? You've turned into the guy holding an "The end is near" sign in the middle of the road and I want to run you over with my car.

i did really enjoy post #70 Though. It seemed like you took time to write out your own thoughts on the subject for a change and it didn't have that news article/ fear monger feel to it.
 
Muir you really need to rebrand yourself. You post so much information and it's always either a wall of text, too long to read, or a 40-80 minute video. I'm not sure you've ever gotten me to read one of your "proofs". Could you at least put some work into developing sound bytes and a literary hook for your audience? You've turned into the guy holding an "The end is near" sign in the middle of the road and I want to run you over with my car.

A lot of these ones are simply articles from mainstream newspapers

I can;t make you read them but if you are interested then they are worth reading

However i can ask you to not call me crazy if you refuse to look at evidence i am presenting
 
A lot of these ones are simply articles from mainstream newspapers

I can;t make you read them but if you are interested then they are worth reading

However i can ask you to not call me crazy if you refuse to look at evidence i am presenting

Yes simply articles. I can use google search also. I'm here for people thoughts and to criticize or assimilate those thoughts. If you get criticized it's just part of being on a forum. Perhaps post an article link and then give your interpretation and summary.
 
Yes simply articles. I can use google search also. I'm here for people thoughts and to criticize or assimilate those thoughts. If you get criticized it's just part of being on a forum. Perhaps post an article link and then give your interpretation and summary.

It depends how hungry you are for info...

If you look over this thread you will find that i have given my opinion on the link between the KKK and freemasonry, shown symbols linking them, supplied articles to support what i am saying and then i got drawn into the 'is freemasonry really bad' quagmire which i've tried to end decisively by showing that YES it does indeed exert all sorts of negative influence on our society

What more do you want....a free tour around the head office of the scottish rite in the District of Columbia?
 
It depends how hungry you are for info...

If you look over this thread you will find that i have given my opinion on the link between the KKK and freemasonry, shown symbols linking them, supplied articles to support what i am saying and then i got drawn into the 'is freemasonry really bad' quagmire which i've tried to end decisively by showing that YES it does indeed exert all sorts of negative influence on our society

What more do you want....a free tour around the head office of the scottish rite in the District of Columbia?

You just don't get it.
 
Freemasonry is a solar phallic cult

It uses obelisks and pyramids because these represent the male penis and also the sun. The male penis is seen as the microcosm of the macrocosmic sun

This is why there are obelisks in many towns and cities for example the washington monument; this is the freemasons saying through the language of architecture that they rule those places (hidden in plain sight)

Freemasonry uses astrology as well as building sites on leylines.

The holy land during the crusades sat on a crossroads of trade between asia and europe. It was linked into trade around the mediterranean sea as well as inland camel routes and the silk road spice routes. A further incentive to control Jerusalem was its importance as a lucrative pilgrammage site. All this movement of people created a melting pot of religious beliefs, ideas, architecture, technology, magick and other esoterica

The templars tapped into all these groups and learned from them for example adopting the islamic pointed arch and taking it to europe to give birth to the 'gothic' (goetic) style of cathedral building

In the far east in China and India a side branch split off from mainstream religion. This was tantra and it was called the 'left hand' path...the female shakti current

Tantric yogic practices made it to the middle east and the templars adopted these learning to raise the kundelini energies within themselves. The freemasonic 33 degrees represents the 33 vertebrae of the human spine up which the kundelini energies must climb to reach the brain in which they fire up glands such as the pineal gland which then secrete a powerful psychadelic containing DMT which gives the initiate a powerful 'illuminating' experience (the light in the head)

There was also a darker side to the left hand path which was the deliberate breaking of taboos in order to have powerful magickal effects. This is the essence of satanism: inversion and subversion of norms to bring the dark into the light (to create a relatavism of morality to create an 'anything goes' culture in which psychopaths can thrive). Such taboos in christian society at that time would include homosexual sex, spitting on the crucafix, human sacrifice, cannibalism etc Even today in India there are sadhu who creep inot graveyards at night and eat the flesh of the dead in order to break taboos

The bible describes the left and the right hand paths in the following terms:

Matthew 25:31-46

New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]31 [/SUP]“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. [SUP]32 [/SUP]All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [SUP]33 [/SUP]He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.


[SUP]41 [/SUP]“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. [SUP]42 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, [SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

A powerful image adopted by left hand adherents is that of baphomet a goat figure. templars were accused of worshipping baphomet (although many trace the known image of baphomet to the french magician Eliphas Levi)

The more powerful the taboo the more powerful the juju. Human scarifice, blood drinking, rape, murder etc are seen as very potent forms of magick. Children were scarficied in the holy land to the god molech who is still revered even today by the Bohemian Grove club in the US in the form of a giant owl

The el-ite see the mass of humanity as the sheep. They see themselves as the goats and they believe that the law does not apply to them but only to the sheep. This is why behind closed doors many societal taboos such as child rape are carried out by members of the el-ite. A recent high profile case would be the heir to the DuPont fortune who was spared prison even though he was found guilty of raping his own children
 
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Satanic Temple Looking to Build Statue of Baphomet at Oklahoma State Capitol

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Rendering of the proposed statue
The Satanic Temple, a New York-based organization, unveiled designs for a seven foot-tall Baphomet statue to be placed at the Oklahoma State Capitol. The statue features Baphomet sitting on a throne adorned with an inverted pentagram flanked by two smiling children. (Maybe I should point out that the Caduceus rising from Baphomet’s lap also represents an erect phallus, which makes the whole children thing quite inappropriate).​
According to Temple spokesman:​
“The monument has been designed to reflect the views of Satanists in Oklahoma City and beyond. The statue will also have a functional purpose as a chair where people of all ages may sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation.”
- CBS New York, N.Y. Group Applies To Build Satan Statue At Oklahoma State Capitol
The Satanic Temple stated that it has raised the necessary funds for the erection of the statue and it is now looking for approval from Oklahoma legislature.​
In all honesty, I do not believe that this statue will ever be approved, mainly because officials would not want to deal with the public outcry. I also do not believe that the Satanic Temple expects its design to be approved neither. It is probably a publicity stunt and a way of protesting the placement of a privately-funded monument of the 10 Commandments in 2012 on State Capitol grounds.​
If one looks closer at this monument of the Ten Commandments, one can understand why it was approved and why it is standing at the State Capitol today.​
The Commandments are topped by the All-Seeing Eye inside a triangle, symbol of the occult elite.
Odd fact: The monument contains two glaring misspellings.

In any case, Baphomet is the main figure representing the beliefs of the occult elite and has been for centuries. I do not doubt that, behind closed doors, powerful people would love to see this monument placed at the State Capitol. While a statue ofBaphomet sitting next to children with a symbolic erection might appear to be a horrible aberration to most, it is probably the most honest representation of what the occult elite truly stands for.
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Praise be to Satan. All photos by the author, who has a shitty camera phone
In January the Satanic Temple announced plans to erect a monument glorifying the Dark Lord on the front lawn of the Oklahoma Statehouse. An Indiegogo campaign was launched with what seemed like a somewhat lofty goal of $20,000, but by the time donations ended almost $30,000 had been raised. Now an artist trained in classical sculpture is toiling away in New York, crafting a Baphomet figure sitting beneath an inverted pentagram and flanked by two children gazing upward in loyalty. When it is finished, it will be cast in bronze and, the Satanists hope, eventually displayed in Oklahoma.
The statue is a direct response to the state's installation of a Ten Commandments monument outside the Capitol in 2012. State Representative Mike Ritze paid for the controversial statue with his own money, and therefore it was considered a donation and OK to place on government property. Following that line of reasoning, the Satanic Temple submitted a formal application for their monument.
As Trait Thompson of the Oklahoma Capitol Preservation Commission told CNN last December, “Individuals and groups are free to apply to place a monument or statue or artwork.” The applications are then approved or rejected by the Commission. Unfortunately, the state has placed a halt on issuing permits for any other monuments until a lawsuit filed by the ACLU against Ritze’s Commandments monument is settled.
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Nonetheless, the Satanists are building this thing, and I was offered an early peek at the work in progress by Temple spokesperson Lucien Greaves. Greaves told me he has received numerous threats from people who want to attack the sculpture, but that he “wouldn’t expect these outraged and nearly insensible reactionaries to actually know how to assault a bronze monument without severely hurting themselves in the process.” Still, he’s not taking any chances. The Temple is building a mold of the sculpture so they can pop these things out like evil, terribly expensive action figures whenever they need a new one.
“Depending on our insurance policy,” Greaves said, “we may be able to cast two from the destruction of one, expediting our arrival to the next battleground.”
The Temple estimates that the monument will be finished in a few months. Once it’s done, they plan to put it in front of the Oklahoma Statehouse regardless of the the Capitol Preservation Commission’s ongoing battle against the ACLU. They feel this should be allowed because their application was submitted before all the hullabaloo over Ritze’s monument.
“After all,” Greaves told me, “the Ten Commandments still stand at the State Capitol. We are fully willing to place our monument at the Capitol, even while the ACLU suit is fought, with the understanding that a judgment against the Ten Commandments will have ramifications for our monument as well, likely resulting in the removal of both.”
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The Baphomet, which will stand seven feet tall and be a testament to the glory of the Angel of the Bottomless Pit, would be placed directly beside the sculpture glorifying the laws given to Moses by the Christian God. The idea of a Satanic monument sitting on government property in Oklahoma—which is like the Bible Belt's Bible Belt—seems a bit far-fetched, but Greaves says that "there has been quite a bit of discussion among legal scholars who recognize how difficult it would actually be for Oklahoma to turn us down… Constitutional law is quite clear on this issue: The state can’t discriminate against viewpoints. If they’ve opened the door for one, they’ve opened it for all.”
Ryan Kiesel from the Oklahoma ACLU seems to agree. He told the Libertarian Republic, “If, at the end of the day, the Ten Commandments monument is allowed to remain on the Capitol grounds with its overtly Christian message, then the Satanic Temple’s proposal can’t be rejected because it is of a different religious viewpoint.”
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When the monument is finished, the Baphomet will rest on the block beneath the inverted pentagram. His lap will serve as a seat for children.
One popular argument being used against the Temple’s monument is that it doesn’t have “any historical significance for the State of Oklahoma,” as State Representative Paul Wesselhoft told a local news station in January. “The only reason why the Ten Commandments qualified,” he continued, “is because at the Capitol, what we do is we make laws. We are lawmakers. Well, one of the earliest laws we have are the Ten Commandments.” This, it is important to remember, was said by a current democratically elected member of the legislature.
Greaves told me that “the idea that the Ten Commandments are foundational to US or Oklahoman law is absurd and obscene… I would argue that the message behind our monument speaks more directly to the formation of US Constitutional values than the Ten Commandments possibly could. It especially does so when it stands directly beside the Ten Commandments, as it affirms no one religion enjoys legal preference.”
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Regardless of what happens at the statehouse, the Temple is charging ahead with the monument. And if it doesn’t end up in Oklahoma City and the Ten Commandments are forced to be removed, the Satanists will try to find a home for the Baphomet in another deserving state. Texas, for instance, has had a monument of the Ten Commandments sitting on its capitol grounds for 40 years. As Greaves put it, “There are no shortage of public locations across the US where religious monuments await a contrasting voice.”
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Aleister Crowley who had apophis of the illuminati as the title of one of the degrees of his system on blood sacrifice in his book of magick in theory and practice:

CHAPTER XII
OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE
It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice, for this question is indeed traditionally important in Magick. Nigh all ancient Magick revolves around this matter. In particular all the Osirian religions — the rites of the Dying God — refer to this. The slaying of Osiris and Adonis; the mutilation of Attis; the cults of Mexico and Peru; the story of Hercules or Melcarth; the legends of Dionysus and of Mithra, are all connected with this one idea. In the Hebrew religion we find the same thing inculcated. The first ethical lesson in the Bible is that the only sacrifice pleasing to the Lord is the sacrifice of blood; Abel, who made this, finding favour with the Lord, while Cain, who offered cabbages, was rather naturally considered a cheap sport. The idea recurs again and again. We have the sacrifice of the Passover, following on the story of Abraham’s being commanded to sacrifice his firstborn son, with the idea of the substitution of animal for human life. The annual ceremony of the two goats carries out this in perpetuity. And we see again the domination of this idea in the romance of Esther, where Haman and Mordecai are the two goats or gods; and ultimately in the presentation of the rite of Purim in Palestine, where Jesus and Barabbas happened to be the Goats in that particular year of which we hear so much, without agreement on the date.
This subject must be studied in the “Golden Bough”, where it is most learnedly set forth by Dr. J. G. Frazer.
Enough has now been said to show that the bloody sacrifice has from time immemorial been the most considered part of Magick. {92} The ethics of the thing appear to have concerned no one; nor, to tell the truth, need they do so. As St. Paul says, “Without shedding of blood there is no remission”; and who are we to argue with St. Paul? But, after all that, it is open to any one to have any opinion that he likes upon the subject, or any other subject, thank God! At the same time, it is most necessary to study the business, whatever we may be going to do about it; for our ethics themselves will naturally depend upon our theory of the universe. If we were quite certain, for example, that everybody went to heaven when he died, there could be no serious objection to murder or suicide, as it is generally conceded — by those who know neither — that earth is not such a pleasant place as heaven. However, there is a mystery concealed in this theory of the bloody sacrifice which is of great importance to the student, and we therefore make no further apology, We should not have made even this apology for an apology, had it not been for the solicitude of a pious young friend of great austerity of character who insisted that the part of this chapter which now follows — the part which was originally written — might cause us to be misunderstood. This must not be.
The blood is the life. This simple statement is explained by the Hindus by saying that the blood is the principal vehicle of vital Prana. There is some ground for the belief that there is a definite substance , not isolated as yet, whose presence makes all {93} the difference between live and dead matter. We pass by with deserved contempt the pseudoscientific experiments of American charlatans who claim to have established that weight is lost at the moment of death, and the unsupported statements of alleged clairvoyants that they have seen the soul issuing like a vapour from the mouth of persons “in articulo mortis”; but his experiences as an explorer have convinced the Master Therion that meat loses a notable portion of its nutritive value within a very few minutes after the death of the animal, and that this loss proceeds with everdiminishing rapidity as time goes on. It is further generally conceded that live food, such as oysters, is the most rapidly assimilable and most concentrated form of energy. Laboratory experiments in food-values seem to be almost worthless, for reasons which we cannot here enter into; the general testimony of mankind appears a safer guide.
It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of those savages who tear the heart and liver from an adversary, and devour them while yet warm. In any case it was the theory of {94} the ancient Magicians, that any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is liberated suddenly.
The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. {95} For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.
Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavored to replace it with incense. For such a purpose the incense of Abramelin may be burnt in large quantities. Dittany of Crete is also a valuable medium. Both these incenses are very catholic in their nature, and suitable for almost any materialization. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. The truly great Magician will be able to use his own blood, or possibly that of a disciple, and that without sacrificing the physical life irrevocably. An example of this sacrifice is given in Chapter 44 of Liber 333. This Mass may be recommended generally for daily practice.
One last word on this subject. There is a Magical operation of maximum importance: the Initiation of a New Aeon. When it becomes necessary to utter a Word, the whole Planet must be bathed in blood. Before man is ready to accept the Law of Thelema, the Great War must be fought. This Bloody Sacrifice is the critical point of the World-{96}Ceremony of the Proclamation of Horus, the Crowned and conquering Child, as Lord of the Aeon.
This whole matter is prophesied in the Book of the Law itself; let the student take note, and enter the ranks of the Host of the Sun.
II There is another sacrifice with regard to which the Adepts have always maintained the most profound secrecy. It is the supreme mystery of practical Magick. Its name is the Formula of the Rosy Cross. In this case the victim is always — in a certain sense — the Magician himself, and the sacrifice must coincide with the utterance of the most sublime and secret name of the God whom he wishes to invoke.
Properly performed, it never fails of its effect. But it is difficult for the beginner to do it satisfactorily, because it is a great effort for the mind to remain concentrated upon the purpose of the ceremony. The overcoming of this difficulty lends most powerful aid to the Magician.
It is unwise for him to attempt it until he has received regular initiation in the true Order of the Rosy Cross, {97} and he must have taken the vows with the fullest comprehension and experience of their meaning. It is also extremely desirable that he should have attained an absolute degree of moral emancipation, and that purity of spirit which results from a perfect understanding both of the differences and harmonies of the planes upon the Tree of Life.
For this reason FRATER PERDURABO has never dared to use this formula in a fully ceremonial manner, save once only, on an occasion of tremendous import, when, indeed, it was not He that made the offering, but ONE in Him. For he perceived a grave defect in his moral character which he has been able to overcome on the intellectual plane, but not hitherto upon higher planes. Before the conclusion of writing this book he will have done so.
The practical details of the Bloody Sacrifice may be studied in various ethnological manuals, but the general conclusions are summed up in Frazer’s “Golden Bough”, which is strongly recommended to the reader. Actual ceremonial details likewise may be left to experiment. The method of killing is practically uniform. The animal should be stabbed to the heart, or its throat severed, in either case by the knife. All other methods of killing are less efficacious; even in the case of Crucifixion death is given by stabbing. One may remark that warm-blooded animals only are used as victims: with two principal exceptions. The first is the serpent, which is only used in a very special Ritual; the second the magical beetles of Liber Legis. (See Part IV.) {98}
One word of warning is perhaps necessary for the beginner. The victim must be in perfect health — or its energy may be as it were poisoned. It must also not be too large: the amount of energy disengaged is almost unimaginably great, and out of all anticipated proportion to the strength of the animal. Consequently, the Magician may easily be overwhelmed and obsessed by the force which he has let loose; it will then probably manifest itself in its lowest and most objectionable form. The most intense spirituality of purpose is absolutely essential to safety. In evocations the danger is not so great, as the Circle forms a protection; but the circle in such a case must be protected, not only by the names of God and the Invocations used at the same time, but by a long habit of successful defence. If you are easily disturbed or alarmed, or if you have not yet overcome the tendency of the mind to wander, it is not advisable for you to perform {99} the “Bloody Sacrifice”. Yet it should not be forgotten that this, and that other art at which we have dared darkly to hint, are the supreme formulae of Practical Magick.
You are also likely to get into trouble over this chapter unless you truly comprehend its meaning.
 
Is it possible to focus on the original topic? I know [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] wants to throw in all these correlations and linking roadways further derailing the thread; HOWEVER, let's stick to the one road before we end up completely lost. Pretty please?
 
Is it possible to focus on the original topic? I know @muir wants to throw in all these correlations and linking roadways further derailing the thread; HOWEVER, let's stick to the one road before we end up completely lost. Pretty please?

All roads lead to rome as they say!

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Is it possible to focus on the original topic? I know @muir wants to throw in all these correlations and linking roadways further derailing the thread; HOWEVER, let's stick to the one road before we end up completely lost. Pretty please?

I don't think the kkk is an American tradition as much as it is a few turds in a shitstorm.
 
I don't think the kkk is an American tradition as much as it is a few turds in a shitstorm.

You'd want your raincoat for that one!
 
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Is it possible to focus on the original topic? I know [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] wants to throw in all these correlations and linking roadways further derailing the thread; HOWEVER, let's stick to the one road before we end up completely lost. Pretty please?

Thank you!

Regarding the original topic:

I think there's a lot of racism in America and everywhere. We're a scared and anxious creature by nature. Change and differences, however small, terrify us. We try to hold on to whatever image of the world we grew up with, and we get to watch it slip away before our eyes as we grow up. The KKK was (and is) a terrible "organization" and it should not get the attention that the media is giving it. The terrifying fact is that they are receiving the news because it is easy for the media (and our brains) to "brand" them for their stupid pointy hats, logos and names. Regular racism and hate crime is harder to "brand" as a work of a bunch of idiots.

Why did I say "America and everywhere"? Because you've had a persistently very violent past and present history of racism. The good news for you guys, I think, is that you've dealt with it. You've learned the majority of the lessons to learn from racism, for now. Racism is coming back in a big way in Europe and Asia. European countries, historically, have been very homogenous demographically. Denmark has a 94% Danish population. Germany probably has a 80-some% German population, etc. When Europe gets to mingle like America did, it's going to bring racism and hate crime over here and fast. I hate how Europeans laugh about Americans like we're a superior species. The only difference, as I see it, is that you've mingled for a longer time than we have, and you're a more powerful nation of people. Scared, anxious people.
 
Thank you!

Regarding the original topic:

I think there's a lot of racism in America and everywhere. We're a scared and anxious creature by nature. Change and differences, however small, terrify us. We try to hold on to whatever image of the world we grew up with, and we get to watch it slip away before our eyes as we grow up. The KKK was (and is) a terrible "organization" and it should not get the attention that the media is giving it. The terrifying fact is that they are receiving the news because it is easy for the media (and our brains) to "brand" them for their stupid pointy hats, logos and names. Regular racism and hate crime is harder to "brand" as a work of a bunch of idiots.

Why did I say "America and everywhere"? Because you've had a persistently very violent past and present history of racism. The good news for you guys, I think, is that you've dealt with it. You've learned the majority of the lessons to learn from racism, for now. Racism is coming back in a big way in Europe and Asia. European countries, historically, have been very homogenous demographically. Denmark has a 94% Danish population. Germany probably has a 80-some% German population, etc. When Europe gets to mingle like America did, it's going to bring racism and hate crime over here and fast. I hate how Europeans laugh about Americans like we're a superior species. The only difference, as I see it, is that you've mingled for a longer time than we have, and you're a more powerful nation of people. Scared, anxious people.

I dont think the US has got over its racism problems. I think it still has racism problems within its borders and i think its foreign policy is predicated on racism

That's not to say that european countries aren't guilty of it as well they ARE! The imperialism of the european countries (now renamed 'neo-imperialism') was based on racism

People go crazy over 3000 US citizens being killed in 911 yet no one talks about the 1 million Iraqis murdered as part of US imperialism

That's hypocrisy and its based on a perception created in the west that a western life is worth more than an eastern life; a lot of people aren't even consciously aware that they think like that! They are racist without even knowing it

The writer of the TV series 'the wire' spoke about how the US government is not really worried about the crime and social probloems within the ghettos as long as it is contained within them (and therefore only affecting blacks and hispanics)
 
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