Possible solutions to the worlds problems

You're not planning to overthrow a government....yet

Let's say that the cabal roll their plans on a bit further and they get to the point where they feel strong enough to wage all out war on christians who they see as a threat

They outlaw christianity and begin locking up anyone who meets in secret to read the bible

You might decide at that point that you do want to speak to people about the government but they will catch you because you have allowed them total insight into your communications. Also once they identify you as a potential enemy of the state they will go back into anything you've said through electronic medium as well as your tax records witha fine tooth comb looking for anything incriminating

You may say ''well i haven't said anyhting incriminating so i'm not worried'' but that is only now.....in the future they might change the definition of what is incriminating. Being a christian might fall, under new legislation that categorises it as falling under 'terrorism' laws and suddenyl all those emails and blogs you made about christianity mark you out as a 'terrorist' and therefore an enemy of the state

This is not just about guarding our freedoms now, it is about guarding our freedoms in the future, which is why some very sensible people wrote down a constitution which is now being undermined

We don't have a written constitution in the UK which is why some are still bowing and scraping to a monarch and can be charged with 'treason' for even discussing a world without monarchy

I don't know about just me, but I am NOT going to be drawn into a hypothetical argument. That posses no useful considerations. Hypothetically, anything could happen. You can't prepare for every eventuality. You can find a hypothetical that will always result in something bad. This is just....fear mongering.
 
Statute of limitations protects us against criminal trials after a set number of years, so if you did something in the past, and they bring it up later it has to be within that time span. Also, if they are just bringing up slanderous statements that are not related to the case, then the fifth amendment would protect the plaintiff through right against self incrimination and double jeopardy. Also your lawyer could object to being off topic.

These guys have no respect for the rule of law!

They're changing the law all the time

They keep testing the waters and because they're not meeting resistance they then push further and they'll keep pushing until they acheive their objectives or they are stopped
 
I don't know about just me, but I am NOT going to be drawn into a hypothetical argument. That posses no useful considerations. Hypothetically, anything could happen. You can't prepare for every eventuality. You can find a hypothetical that will always result in something bad. This is just....fear mongering.

No its not hypothetical

We know what they are trying to achieve. They have told us

They always say what they are going to do...then if we acquiesce we are doing so through our own free will
 
Gotcha

I guess if they want to do something bad enough they would find a way

Even if you were encrypting offline they could still put surveillance tech into your home and see what you were encrypting

What they really want to be able to do is read our minds and no doubt they are working on that too!

They aim to control what goes on in peopels minds obviously but there will always be some divergents who go off message

Yeah.

Another way to be more safe is to design the system yourself so that you know what is in it and can take steps to make it more secure and verify that it isn't infected with anything. But most people are just end users and are not up for that task.
 
Yeah.

Another way to be more safe is to design the system yourself so that you know what is in it and can take steps to make it more secure and verify that it isn't infected with anything. But most people are just end users and are not up for that task.

Indeed...in fact some countries are rejecting US technology because they knwo its all being built with inbuilt spy tech
 
An encryption program would only be one more layer of security.

To be completely secure the message would have to be encoded off of the computer and then the coded message is what ends up typed in. Because otherwise if you're typing on the device itself, the unencrypted message must still go through the operating system because it has to be able to take your plain text and encrypt it. This means the plain text must be held somewhere in memory to be encoded. There's programs that can intercept what comes right off your keyboard, these are some times used to steal passwords and such. So it isn't really safe to type anything in the clear.

It is true that a person cannot be completely secure. Even in real life, well except if you seal yourself in a sustainable bunker or something.....on the moon.....without any record of the bunker.....with electromagnetic shielding to prevent detection....and be really far underground.......Ok yeah, impossible.
Like was mentioned earlier, the difference in difficulty level for the NSA is substantial to go from catching the information in servers to catching it from every individual computer. You would need some serious processing power, the likes of which I'm not sure our best super computer could do. Maybe you could do the processing on each individual computer but the computing power still needed for coordination and breaking fire walls is still substantial. However theoretically possible. In this case however, a standing program must be placed on the computer (probably, I'm not a computer science major) in which case it is extremely likely that a good tech expert could fool the program with garbage data so they can't pick out the real email. If you run that kind of program on every computer, the NSA computer would never be able to process that much, it would be impossible. Also, such a program would be detectable in the programing of the computer. Therefore traceable. If news of that kind of security breech were to hit the public, the NSA would be shut down and major criminal investigations for the obvious invasion of privacy. I think there's international laws on that. Such a case could be taken outside of the U.S. I would think. Basically, it just seems far to impractical in my opinion.
 
These guys have no respect for the rule of law!

They're changing the law all the time

They keep testing the waters and because they're not meeting resistance they then push further and they'll keep pushing until they acheive their objectives or they are stopped

To base your argument on the premise that "oh well then they could just change the law" then sure, they could do anything. But its not that easy! changing the laws, especially like this, would be next to impossible. Enough people in America are paying attention to something like that.
 
No its not hypothetical

We know what they are trying to achieve. They have told us

They always say what they are going to do...then if we acquiesce we are doing so through our own free will
It is hypothetical because you are pointing out one possible eventuality among a myriad of others! There is not guarantee this is what will be nor is it a guarantee of what even could be. You can't see the future. You cannot say this is what is going to happen in the way that you are.
 
It is true that a person cannot be completely secure. Even in real life, well except if you seal yourself in a sustainable bunker or something.....on the moon.....without any record of the bunker.....with electromagnetic shielding to prevent detection....and be really far underground.......Ok yeah, impossible.
Like was mentioned earlier, the difference in difficulty level for the NSA is substantial to go from catching the information in servers to catching it from every individual computer. You would need some serious processing power, the likes of which I'm not sure our best super computer could do. Maybe you could do the processing on each individual computer but the computing power still needed for coordination and breaking fire walls is still substantial. However theoretically possible. In this case however, a standing program must be placed on the computer (probably, I'm not a computer science major) in which case it is extremely likely that a good tech expert could fool the program with garbage data so they can't pick out the real email. If you run that kind of program on every computer, the NSA computer would never be able to process that much, it would be impossible. Also, such a program would be detectable in the programing of the computer. Therefore traceable. If news of that kind of security breech were to hit the public, the NSA would be shut down and major criminal investigations for the obvious invasion of privacy. I think there's international laws on that. Such a case could be taken outside of the U.S. I would think. Basically, it just seems far to impractical in my opinion.

Not really. Stuff like this goes on all the time.

It is mostly in the hands of hackers and credit card thieves right now. There's many unsuspecting computers out there which are hooked up to botnets, hidden networks of computers which can all be used for nefarious purposes.

Many people lately are putting shared processing software on their computers in the form of things like Pando Media Booster which secretly gets downloaded with several games without them telling you, and it runs in the background, allegedly as a form of cloud to help other clients get pieces of the software.

This stuff is all over the place, and if it were to be caught, all they'd have to do is throw somebody else under the bus. Saying it's hackers, or Anonymous or something.
 
Not really. Stuff like this goes on all the time.

It is mostly in the hands of hackers and credit card thieves right now. There's many unsuspecting computers out there which are hooked up to botnets, hidden networks of computers which can all be used for nefarious purposes.

Many people lately are putting shared processing software on their computers in the form of things like Pando Media Booster which secretly gets downloaded with several games without them telling you, and it runs in the background, allegedly as a form of cloud to help other clients get pieces of the software.

This stuff is all over the place, and if it were to be caught, all they'd have to do is throw somebody else under the bus. Saying it's hackers, or Anonymous or something.

Well wouldn't that be a different scale and purpose? I know how hackers hijack computers to help with brute force attacks or flooding attacks against some targets, but wouldn't it be different for the NSA spy programs? The NSA would need to hack most of America, those hackers just hack somewhere from 100-100,000 computers I thought. They would have to record the information in another way, and send it out. Oh, I see, I suppose it would be easier to do than I thought. Run the program after the user logs off. Then full access to processing power. Possible. However it is also much easer to detect still. It's actually a program on the computer rather than catching it in the server. On the computer can be traced, right? The challenge is just so much grater. Especially with all the different operating systems that would need to be hacked by the NSA. And all that just to collect emails....?
 
It is hypothetical because you are pointing out one possible eventuality among a myriad of others! There is not guarantee this is what will be nor is it a guarantee of what even could be. You can't see the future. You cannot say this is what is going to happen in the way that you are.

To you its an uncertainty but to me i know what the game plan is so i know what direction we are heading in

However....like i said...we have a choice so we can change that direction

Regarding whether or not i can read the future you would have to read my posts over a period of time and see if the things i have spoken about have come to pass

The NSA aren't the only people watching patterns
 
Well wouldn't that be a different scale and purpose? I know how hackers hijack computers to help with brute force attacks or flooding attacks against some targets, but wouldn't it be different for the NSA spy programs? The NSA would need to hack most of America, those hackers just hack somewhere from 100-100,000 computers I thought. They would have to record the information in another way, and send it out. Oh, I see, I suppose it would be easier to do than I thought. Run the program after the user logs off. Then full access to processing power. Possible. However it is also much easer to detect still. It's actually a program on the computer rather than catching it in the server. On the computer can be traced, right? The challenge is just so much grater. Especially with all the different operating systems that would need to be hacked by the NSA. And all that just to collect emails....?

Well I'm not saying that they'd be able to get every computer all at once. Just that there's still a risk.

To somebody who doesn't know what they're doing it'd be no different than any other piece of software. It's not so difficult at all because the internet is already set up to wrangle and direct a bajillion connections - if you're able to send email then 99% of the infrastructure for them to do it is already in place. You've already got a service that is doing most of the work, a small program that hooks onto that and fires off a copy to somewhere else is only a very tiny and inexpensive additional step when it comes to computing power.

The main difficulty would be infecting the targets. But given things like phishing and tabnabbing, it's easier than one might think especially when users are not savvy. Hell even the ISP I use right now has DNS servers which hijack search queries and use them for commercial purposes straight off my browser, which is why I've resorted to switching to a public DNS to deny them this.
 
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Like infj ??

If I started trying to hide under the radar or encrypting messages, the red flag would be hoisted.

Besides; people might have more of a tendency to listen to me, than to worry about me.
 
Like infj ??

If I started trying to hide under the radar or encrypting messages, the red flag would be hoisted.

Besides; people might have more of a tendency to listen to me, than to worry about me.

As a gun owning christian you may be perceived as a potential threat because they want your guns and they aren't christians

It's well within your interests to oppose government spying and to help ensure a free and open internet
 
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Insuring our laws protect my rights is more on my mind. The Military and Police are my friends. I can't see them taking up arms against states filled with people like myself.
 
Even if the government tried to seize control as you seem to imply muir, just me just made a very good point. If the government tried to seize control, the police would probably rebel, and I would go as far as to say the military would as well. They wouldn't want to attack their friends and neighbors. Military officers usually are trained with moral standards, and if they were ordered to attack American civilians, they would blatantly refuse (this being a majority would, of course some would enjoy the fighting). They would probably join against such a government. This is of course the case of a total rebellion, which has been shown to be the result as in the case of Bundy farms. The government would never win in such a case. Also on this issue, your saying the entire government is the same on the guns issue. The republican party (in general) definitely wants to keep guns in the people, and an argument could be made for the democratic party, they just want tighter restrictions and registration procedures. It's only extremists that want to get rid of guns. Even if they did ban guns, they would never be able to get rid of guns. To many people have them. To many people know how to hide them. Banning guns would likely start a revolution.
 
Cure for cancer

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Write off the public debt

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...it-illegitimate-working-class-internationalim


The French are right: tear up public debt – most of it is illegitimate anyway

Debt audits show that austerity is politically motivated to favour social elites. Is a new working-class internationalism in the air?




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Contracts for Chilean student loans worth $500m go up in flames – the 'imaginative auditing' of the artist Francisco Tapia, commonly known as Papas Fritas (Fried Potatoes). Photograph: David von Blohn/REX

As history has shown, France is capable of the best and the worst, and often in short periods of time.
On the day following Marine Le Pen's Front National victory in the European elections, however, France made a decisive contribution to the reinvention of a radical politics for the 21st century. On that day, the committee for a citizen's audit on the public debt issued a 30-page report on French public debt, its origins and evolution in the past decades. The report was written by a group of experts in public finances under the coordination of Michel Husson, one of France's finest critical economists. Its conclusion is straightforward: 60% of French public debt is illegitimate.
Anyone who has read a newspaper in recent years knows how important debt is to contemporary politics. As David Graeber among others has shown, we live in debtocracies, not democracies. Debt, rather than popular will, is the governing principle of our societies, through the devastating austerity policies implemented in the name of debt reduction. Debt was also a triggering cause of the most innovative social movements in recent years, the Occupy movement.
If it were shown that public debts were somehow illegitimate, that citizens had a right to demand a moratorium – and even the cancellation of part of these debts – the political implications would be huge. It is hard to think of an event that would transform social life as profoundly and rapidly as the emancipation of societies from the constraints of debt. And yet this is precisely what the French report aims to do.
The audit is part of a wider movement of popular debt audits in more than 18 countries. Ecuador and Brazil have had theirs, the former at the initiative of Rafael Correa's government, the latter organised by civil society. European social movements have also put in place debt audits, especially in countries harder hit by the sovereign debt crisis, such as Greece and Spain. In Tunisia, the post-revolutionary government declared the debt taken out during Ben Ali's dictatorship an "odious" debt: one that served to enrich the clique in power, rather than improving the living conditions of the people.
The report on French debt contains several key findings. Primarily, the rise in the state's debt in the past decades cannot be explained by an increase in public spending. The neoliberal argument in favour of austerity policies claims that debt is due to unreasonable public spending levels; that societies in general, and popular classes in particular, live above their means.
This is plain false. In the past 30 years, from 1978 to 2012 more precisely, French public spending has in fact decreased by two GDP points. What, then, explains the rise in public debt? First, a fall in the tax revenues of the state. Massive tax reductions for the wealthy and big corporations have been carried out since 1980. In line with the neoliberal mantra, the purpose of these reductions was to favour investment and employment. Well, unemployment is at its highest today, whereas tax revenues have decreased by five points of GDP.
The second factor is the increase in interest rates, especially in the 1990s. This increase favoured creditors and speculators, to the detriment of debtors. Instead of borrowing on financial markets at prohibitive interest rates, had the state financed itself by appealing to household savings and banks, and borrowed at historically normal rates, the public debt would be inferior to current levels by 29 GDP points.
Tax reductions for the wealthy and interest rates increases are political decisions. What the audit shows is that public deficits do not just grow naturally out of the normal course of social life. They are deliberately inflicted on society by the dominant classes, to legitimise austerity policies that will allow the transfer of value from the working classes to the wealthy ones.
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A sit-in called by Occupy France at La Défense business district in Paris. Photograph: Afp/AFP/Getty Images A stunning finding of the report is that no one actually knows who holds the French debt. To finance its debt, the French state, like any other state, issues bonds, which are bought by a set of authorised banks. These banks then sell the bonds on the global financial markets. Who owns these titles is one of the world's best kept secrets. The state pays interests to the holders, so technically it could know who owns them. Yet a legally organised ignorance forbids the disclosure of the identity of the bond holders.
This deliberate organisation of ignorance – agnotology – in neoliberal economies intentionally renders the state powerless, even when it could have the means to know and act. This is what permits tax evasion in its various forms – which last year cost about €50bn to European societies, and €17bn to France alone.
Hence, the audit on the debt concludes, some 60% of the French public debt is illegitimate.
An illegitimate debt is one that grew in the service of private interests, and not the wellbeing of the people. Therefore the French people have a right to demand a moratorium on the payment of the debt, and the cancellation of at least part of it. There is precedent for this: in 2008 Ecuador declared 70% of its debt illegitimate.
The nascent global movement for debt audits may well contain the seeds of a new internationalism – an internationalism for today – in the working classes throughout the world. This is, among other things, a consequence of financialisation. Thus debt audits might provide a fertile ground for renewed forms of international mobilisations and solidarity.
This new internationalism could start with three easy steps.
1) Debt audits in all countries

The crucial point is to demonstrate, as the French audit did, that debt is a political construction, that it doesn't just happen to societies when they supposedly live above their means. This is what justifies calling it illegitimate, and may lead to cancellation procedures. Audits on private debts are also possible, as the Chilean artist Francisco Tapia has recently shown by auditing student loans in an imaginative way.
2) The disclosure of the identity of debt holders

A directory of creditors at national and international levels could be assembled. Not only would such a directory help fight tax evasion, it would also reveal that while the living conditions of the majority are worsening, a small group of individuals and financial institutions has consistently taken advantage of high levels of public indebtedness. Hence, it would reveal the political nature of debt.
3) The socialisation of the banking system

The state should cease to borrow on financial markets, instead financing itself through households and banks at reasonable and controllable interest rates. The banks themselves should be put under the supervision of citizens' committees, hence rendering the audit on the debt permanent. In short, debt should be democratised. This, of course, is the harder part, where elements of socialism are introduced at the very core of the system. Yet, to counter the tyranny of debt on every aspect of our lives, there is no alternative.
• This article was amended on 10 June to say that Greece and Spain had been "harder hit" by the sovereign debt crisis, not "hardly hit".
 
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/how-retrain-your-brain-kick-bad-habits-and-addictions

How to Retrain Your Brain To Kick Bad Habits and Addictions


There are ways to rein in the worst parts of our psyche.



By Martha Rosenberg

Martha Rosenberg: Your book reminds me of the right brain/left brain books that used to be popular, only you contrast the limbic brain with the cortex brain.
Cynthia Moreno Tuohy: Leading from our "limbic" is a survival technique that many of us learned in our families of origin or from time spent in unhealthy relationships. The limbic system drives us to seek the short-lived comfort of substances (alcohol, drugs, sex, food, gambling) or things (shopping, cars, adult toys) to numb real or imagined pain. The limbic is looking to be soothed from the irritations and stresses it feels in the emotional part of the brain.
The cerebral cortex, on the other hand, is our "thinking brain," which gives us the ability to reason and think when we stand still in that moment of irritation before we make a gesture or speak a word.
MR: Rein In Your Brain offers "10 Big Ideas" to help people avoid "going limbic," which sounds a lot like "going postal." Can people actually retrain their brains?
CMT: Yes. We know that the brain works on habitual patterns that set a groove in our brain pathway and we follow those patterns. For example, someone who is used to drinking at 5 o'clock will be comfortable until that time, but then his body (through a brain impulse) will crave the alcohol. These patterns, neural pathways, can definitely be changed—it takes time and it takes learning how to build the brain patterns through thought and behavioral patterns.
To learn a new pattern from date of onset takes about 30 days and then our brain begins to feel somewhat comfortable with that new pattern. When we use drugs and alcohol, we can destroy our endogenous opioids that are naturally produced in our brain by flooding our brain with other drugs that are external to our system. When we move into recovery, we can regenerate these endorphins and endogenous opioids and the limbic system will eventually feel better through the new patterns we set in our brain.
This book teaches a person how to release the limbic patterns and build new neuropathways to the cortex, causing the limbic to feel soothed with these new pathways. At first, the limbic system will fight these changes—it is comfortable with the patterns that have been established, and building new thoughts and behaviors is unfamiliar and therefore, uncomfortable. With repetition and the building of the other skills, as one keeps doing the behavior, the brain will eventually “believe” the behavior and thought patterns and integrate them into the personhood of that specific person.
MR: One of my favorites of your "10 Big Ideas" is the one about avoiding "premature forgiveness." Some recovery programs emphasize quick forgiveness of resentments whereas others caution people that these can also be boundary and self-respect/self-esteem issues.
CMT: I personally gave out “premature forgiveness” for years because I was afraid that I would lose a relationship and due to my background had severe abandonment fears. Many of us in recovery have high regard for others' opinions and values and not for our own. I would not talk about what I needed and I would acquiesce all my rights, opinions and needs as a human being.
When you say that a hurtful thing that is done to you is "not that important" and suggest that it be forgiven and forgotten about, you are saying to yourself and others that you are not worth respect and positive affirmations and thereby don't have rights or expect them from others.

MR: You write that not giving premature forgiveness can be a teachable moment, but certainly there are people who will respond to a boundary—e.g. "you can't do that anymore"—with derision.
CMT: Sometimes you have to ask, it is worth it to stay with this person at this cost? It is helpful to look at our life scripts and see where these ideas about our self generate from, again, often in our family of origin issues. In the book I discuss the family systems that causes the compulsive labeling and behaviors of the hero, scapegoat, lost child and clown and ask the reader to consider if this as well as other conflictual patterns learned in family systems are derived and our willingness to agree to different types of abuse as well as how to change those systems of unhealthy living to systems of healthy living.
MR: Can you give examples of how using the cortex instead of limbic part of the brain has positive results?
CMT: Using the cortex in communicating with people is especially valuable in dealing with teenagers and other people who are not mature yet. I will give you an example. Say your teen does something "wrong." Instead of going to the shame-and-blame limbic brain in which you might say, "You did this again!" you go into the thinking brain and you say, "I thought we had an understanding about this behavior and am wondering if I am confused as to our agreement…please help me remember what we agreed to as to these boundaries" or whatever the specific issue is that you are addressing.
MR: This seems to encapsulate other of your Big Ideas like "Stand Still in the Moment," "Do Not Assume Intent," "Dig Deeper into the Conflict" and "Put Down Your Dukes."
CMT: Yes. Not only does this reaction suspend judgment and seek more information, it invokes the young person to also move their neuropathways into their "thinking" cortex to offer an answer. The whole family changes. It is amazing.
MR: Can you give an example of how the Big Ideas work in your personal life?
CMT: My children offered me a living laboratory for changing from impulsive to thoughtful living and I practiced these principals as they grew up. When my daughter graduated from middle school, the principal said to me "I don't want to see Chelsea graduate."
My limbic system was ready to be insulted; however, my cortex sought more information and I "dug deeper" and asked, "What causes you to say this?" My daughter, he said, was invaluable in settling student/student conflicts, student/teacher conflicts and even teacher/teacher conflicts. He asked if the teachers could be taught the principles my daughter had been taught.
Everyday life is stressful in itself and when we add family of origin or addiction/mental health issues to our brain stressors, we have for the making of difficult and unhealthy lives. This book assists the person to identify those patterns and trauma and actual methods to change and introduce a new lifestyle that can change their own life and those around them It is a contagious way to live healthy!
Martha Rosenberg is an investigative health reporter and the author of "Born With a Junk Food Deficiency: How Flaks, Quacks and Hacks Pimp the Public Health (Random House)."
 
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