Trump will win again

I am NOT trying to exonerate Trump! I am just trying to be fair.

And my referral to Catch-22 was meant to say that if she suffered rape, it would be no surprise if she did have alcohol and drug issues and I agree that to use that against her is reprehensible.

My point about Daily Mail is that it appears it wanted to be able to get Trump based on its own behavior. I don't think newspapers like to admit they had something wrong. It's generally against their nature.
 
I am not really interested in playing the game with anyone. However I am curious as to what the fascination and obsession with Donald Trump actually is and where it comes from
Paradoxically, I am curious with your fascination and obsession with Donald Trump.

Why do I say this?

Because if I qualify your main issue with Trump, it is his alleged racism. However, did you bother to see the recent post about Biden? This video was posted.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IehA9bM3AQl1/

It begins with Biden saying, "We already have a nigger mayor and we don't need any more nigger big shots."

But, he gets a pass, right? Why does he get a pass from you, Dave? Why are you ignorant of this?

By his words and deeds, Biden is FAR MORE racist than Trump. It's not even close.

But, who the hell cares. Obsession and fascination need to uphold their false illusions.

I think false illusions (read: lies) are worth dispelling.
 
1. This has truly gotten to the point of absurdity. 2. There are/were too many links to post them here but a simple Google search will provide MASSIVE amounts of information and actual facts to this "exchange". The video is a staged event that even the seriously left organizations have stated/dismissed. 3. Lisa Bloom was representing the famous women's supporter Harvey Weinstein. 4. There is DOCUMENTED proof/evidence that Bloom and supporters have/had paid the accusers for their testimony.

Hate Trump/ don't hate Trump, what difference does it make? Don't invite him over for dinner but, one could, if one were so inclined, realize that virtually all of the sexual ACTIONS have been debunked.

Mean while one could (again if so inclined) witness with their own eyes Biden's morally questionable behavior, after all there is 100's of hours of it that has been recorded.

But I do feel compelled to thank those who insist on making my point! If one can find a "source" to "document" the premise even though it has since been proven to not be true, makes no difference, it made it to the internet so it must be true (if it meets ones agenda). If it doesn't meet with one's agenda then it obviously came from Fox or some other horrid right wing conspiracy theory source. (Again amusing that the right no longer considers Fox a right wing news source).
 
Kind of what I expected, a non answer. And reference to internet video .
Time might be better spent in a more noble cause
 
For me, it's more a matter of wanting to maintain a constitutional republic. Doesn't seem likely with Trump. Thankfully, more Americans saw through him and see the threat he posed to American democracy and voted him out. Our system of checks and balances worked. But has it been weakened? I think so.
See the members of Congress refusing to accept the results of the election without any proof of widespread fraud. The members of Congress who were among the insurrectionists storming the capitol that day. All for a cult of personality.
Prior to the election he said he would not accept a loss and he still has not accepted his loss. He's somehow managed to inspire a significant amount of people to pray for a military coup that would reinstate him as president (See QAnon.) He's already inspired an insurrection attempt. It's not a matter of his brash style. It's a matter of him being a threat to the US. And still, not seeing any of that proof that widespread voter fraud occurred in this thread. Just lots and lots of whataboutisms.
 
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Kind of what I expected, a non answer. And reference to internet video .
Time might be better spent in a more noble cause
What question?

The video has relevant, intrinsic merit. The first 10 seconds are sufficient for my claim. Biden is far more racist and white supremacist than Trump, based on reality.
 
This thread is a sad mess as it clearly demonstrates what being stuck in a cult is like where there is a lack of critical thinking and group think is all. If we really were free to look deeper as to reasons why one can bet that a lot here spend an awful amount of time on fakebook and twitter where such thinking is not only the norm but required to be apart of such communities. Also it does strongly suggest a lack of personality development that doesn't allow for proper individuation so really these people don't have opinions so whatever is the loudest and parroted the most often is what goes until some other voice speaks louder. Can't ignore the tribalism either which isn't good in the long run as the actions of their own will be white washed and forgotten while the other is magnified to the point of absurdity regardless if they are reality or fantasy.
 
For me, it's more a matter of wanting to maintain a constitutional republic. Doesn't seem likely with Trump. Thankfully, more Americans saw through him and see the threat he posed to American democracy and voted him out. Prior to the election he said he would not accept a loss and he still has not accepted his loss. He's somehow managed to inspire a significant amount of people to pray for a military coup that would reinstate him as president (See QAnon.) He's already inspired an insurrection attempt. His legacy lives on in these loonies. It's not a matter of his brash style. It's a matter of him being a threat to the US. And still, not seeing any of that proof that widespread voter fraud occurred in this thread. Just lots and lots of whataboutisms.
It is now known the FBI was involved in the Capitol event. It is also known that antifa posed as Trump supporters and were in the building (read: I am NOT saying valid Trump supporters did not go in as well and that was WRONG).

I am unsure how Trump is a threat to our Constitutional Republic. On matters of policy, here are my three highest priority positions.

1. Get rid of child trafficking and pedophilia, which are rampant.

2. War.

3. Private central banking and commercial reserve (fractional banking).

Regarding 1, Trump has done more to combat this issue than every preceding president combined. He has gone after this with a vengeance.

Regarding 2, Trump has been the most peaceful president perhaps ever. I think even his bombing in Syria was intended to impact an area with minimal loss of life and no strategic interest.

Regarding 3, heck, I can't remember his name, but here is his video. This was posted 7 years ago, but I think the video is older.


By far the most racist facet of our government is its allowance of private central banking and the lack of an alternative to commercial banking. A friend of mine shared with me a histogram chart of transfer of wealth due to private central banking as a function of wealth, divided into 10 populations (poorest 10%, next poorest 10%, all the way to the wealthiest 10%). The poorer the group, the more wealth is lost. The 81-90% group broke even. The 91-100% group made a killing.

The Federal Reserve is owned by international bankers who own all central banks in the world save a couple countries. I believe Syria and Iran, but am unsure. For the mere cost of printing, they lend notes to the government at interest. (Why can't the government issue paper currency at 0% interest?) Our entire money supply is owed to the Fed. But, there is also the unpaid interest. Our national debt is owed by the government to the Fed Reserve. And good ol' FDR, with his birth certificate scheme, collateralized the worth of all US Citizens to pay off the debt. By the way, good ol' Obama did up his "Too big to fail" campaign (read: bail out banks at the expense of the people). And back to FDR. He ordered all US Citizens to give up their gold money for Fed Reserve notes which I believe devalued 41% within 60 days. Oh how our government LOVES the banks and will gladly steal from you and I to cozy up to them!

The author of the above video, The Money Masters, said that the Trump administration contacted him for inputs on money reform. He stated that he thinks the administration adopted some of his suggestions. There are whisperings that Trump nationalized the Federal Reserve.

There are also whisperings that the Federal government, which incorporated in 1870, had its corporate charter dissolved and Trump was restoring the pre-corporate federal government.

In summary, I know of no one else who may be more supportive of restoring our Constitutional Republic than Trump.
 
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In summary, I know of no one else who may be more supportive of restoring our Constitutional Republic than Trump.
No. Simple as this:
He can't even accept that he lost the election.

You're just posting conspiracy theories.
 
No. Simple as this:
He can't even accept that he lost the election.

You're just posting conspiracy theories.
A conspiracy is an unlawful act committed by 1 or more people in secrecy. A theory is an explanation for a phenomenon. So, if I look at my driveway and see that my car is missing and I think, Holy shit! Someone stole my car! I am a conspiracy theorist.

The powers that be doctored the term for weak-minded folks. What it has been doctored to mean is this: Anyone who believes in a conspiracy theory that is OTHER than the ones we feed you, is a conspiracy theorist.

Right now, many in government are assigning conspiracy theories to the Maricopa audit.

But, that is NOT a conspiracy theory! Why not? Because it is a conspiracy theory they are feeding us with.

You know what? The powers that be are so good, so benevolent, that I suppose I should bend over and take their version of reality up my <you know what>.
 
You know what? The powers that be are so good, so benevolent, that I suppose I should bend over and take their version of reality up my <you know what>.
Or just accept reality. No version. Just the facts.
Trump lost.
 
Pointless

I previously quoted the first 10 seconds of the video you complained about:
It begins with Biden saying, "We already have a nigger mayor and we don't need any more nigger big shots."

I mean...it is a video of Biden saying these words!

Humor me with how that is some useless triviality.

On this thread, YOU are pointless.
 
Or just accept reality. No version. Just the facts.
Trump lost.
Did you watch a single video of witnesses at voting precincts who signed affidavits (meaning if found to be lying, they can go to jail)? I saw hours of video for several swing states.

May I assume you render verdict in the absence of alleged pertinent evidence?

Yes or No.

I just want to know if you rendered verdict without a shred of regard for what the entire western world views as essential jurisprudence.
 
Did you watch a single video of witnesses at voting precincts who signed affidavits (meaning if found to be lying, they can go to jail)? I saw hours of video for several swing states.

May I assume you render verdict in the absence of alleged pertinent evidence?

Yes or No.

I just want to know if you rendered verdict without a shred of regard for what the entire western world views as essential jurisprudence.
50+ lawsuits thrown out for lack of evidence. He was given plenty of chances. Bipartisan election officials in contested states recounted votes multiple times. Trump's own atty general found no evidence for widespread voter fraud and then he resigned. And Bill Barr was a toadie but apparently not even he is willing to take part in dismantling our democracy. Not even Mike Pence would deny the results on 1/6/21. Basically saying it would be unconstitutional to do so.

I think that our judicial system and election officials are more trustworthy on this subject than the person who said before the election if he lost it would be due to the election being rigged How easily can you be duped? What is it about Trump that hypnotizes people still to this day? It's bizarre to me.
 
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My parents were big Trump supporters. My young son spends a lot of time with them.
When he was very small, he used to equate the flag with Donald Trump. He'd see a flag when out and say, "Donald Trump!" My parents thought it was really cute and encouraged it. I told him, "Donald Trump is the president of the US now but he is not the US. He is just a person. He's here for 4 years. If he wins again, he will be president for another 4 years. If he loses, we will have a different president." I didn't want him to equate what America is with a single person. Donald Trump is not the embodiment of the US. No person is.

I admit I really had my doubts and concerns after seeing Trump shape the judiciary these last few years. I thought that adding 3 Supreme Court justices would ensure that he would prevail with his claims of a rigged election if he lost. And he had said many times prior to the election that he would not accept a loss and would say it was rigged. Which is exactly what he ended up doing.

I'm so glad I was wrong and that those entrusted to make determinations did so without politicizing it. Truth is truth whether you like it or not.

I guess my point is that this election has made people choose. Do you choose America; do you trust in our system of checks and balances and our bipartisan election officials or are they all lying to you? Do you choose to believe one person who undermined everything the US is built on before the election even took place?

A constitutional republic and our democracy cannot survive if it becomes all about one person. Why do so many people put all their faith and trust into one person? How can you trust that he isn't lying to you?
 
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