Trump will win again

David54 said:
So you hate Biden..what does that have to do with trump
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I am making an assumption. I am assuming you have never meted out criticism of Biden for his doing worse on a matter for which you mete out criticism against Trump.

I am passionate about the following as a heinous ethic. (Not saying you abide by it, but I think it is possible.)

If ethics can be taken to ride some sort of hierarchy, I am referring to placing partisanship above morality itself. An example would be to bash a politician for his immorality, but also because his affiliation is other than one's own. If that is the case, partisanship sits higher on one's ethical hierarchy than right and wrong itself. That is a subversion of right and wrong.

In this case, the evidence seems to me to strongly support the idea Biden is far more racist and supremacist than Trump.

[Person whose ethic is as I describe above]
TRUMP IS A WHITE SUPREMCIST!!! TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS!!!

And what about Biden? [birds chirping - complete silence]

Should this be the case, who gives a shit about morality then?
 
acd said:
50+ lawsuits thrown out for lack of evidence.
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Did you ever see Perry Mason? Or some other lawyer show?

The evidence is given during a court case. The trials were not allowed to go that far.

The corruption is unbelievable. (Yeah, I know, "conspiracy theory.")

Pence despises Trump, by the way. And he's a major pedophile.
 
o2b said:
Did you ever see Perry Mason? Or some other lawyer show?

The evidence is given during a court case. The trials were not allowed to go that far.

The corruption is unbelievable. (Yeah, I know, "conspiracy theory.")

Pence despises Trump, by the way. And he's a major pedophile.
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Pence is a pedophile? Based on what? More salty feelings about Trump's loss?

Can you just go to court over hearsay and speculation and feelings of disappointment? None of it was admissible. Maybe Trump and supporters should seek proper venue to share their inability to work through disappointment. Therapy. A therapist will help to work through all of that.
 
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o2b said:
I am making an assumption. I am assuming you have never meted out criticism of Biden for his doing worse on a matter for which you mete out criticism against Trump.

I am passionate about the following as a heinous ethic. (Not saying you abide by it, but I think it is possible.)

If ethics can be taken to ride some sort of hierarchy, I am referring to placing partisanship above morality itself. An example would be to bash a politician for his immorality, but also because his affiliation is other than one's own. If that is the case, partisanship sits higher on one's ethical hierarchy than right and wrong itself. That is a subversion of right and wrong.

In this case, the evidence seems to me to strongly support the idea Biden is far more racist and supremacist than Trump.

[Person whose ethic is as I describe above]
TRUMP IS A WHITE SUPREMCIST!!! TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS!!!

And what about Biden? [birds chirping - complete silence]

Should this be the case, who gives a shit about morality then?
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Safe to say these people are unreachable such is their blindness to other points of view as it is either their way or their way as one doesn't even get the highway anymore. This exact same mentality is what enabled the rise of totalitarianism in Europe and Asia.

Here is something to put into perspective just how far things have gone down the drain.
 
Hey acd,

Like I said, I am unsure about Trump. But, I haven't gotten anything real bad against him. Except maybe this:


It's investigative reporter Whitney Webb interviewing alleged Epstein and Maxwell sex slave Maria Farmer. I am unsure where in the youtube it is and it is fuzzy in my mind. I know she says something horrible about Ivanka, but if what she says is true, it would seem Trump would have to be aware and thus implicated.

The whole Trump thing has facets of it that I am concerned about. By that, I mean aspects of folks who support him. People talk about instituting something called QFS (Quantum Financial System). It seems very mark of the beast-ish. It's like a "quantum computer" that has some global control over finances. Also, there is a fringe that talks about aliens and eventually them being revealed to the public. They allege some are benevolent. No way in hell. If there are any, they are demons (fallen angels). Others say there will be a scrapping of our tax system, which is unConstiutional, but for a universal sales tax. (But, that is unConstiutional as well.)

I know...far out stuff. But, the times are super weird and the above are things some Trump supporters say are part of his deal.

Again, I appreciate the above is very far out.
 
acd,

On the election. I have watched and listened to too much testimony to be swayed by courts deciding not to hear any cases.
 
Anyway, I am tiring of this.

I may continue to dialogue out of loneliness. Aside form that, I am gonna work on Michael Flynn.
 
By the way, for anyone anti-Trump who would like to have a real solid awareness of the general belief system of Trump supporters around the alleged Russian Hoax issue, please, please, please consider watching:

The Plot Against The President

It is available on Amazon Prime. I have probably watched it 15 times. I think it is even unbelievably good.

At the least, you will be armed with a quite full understanding of a Trump-sided interpretation of the Russian Hoax issue.
 
There is a time to return to reality. Fox news is only news until they are sued, then they say that a reasonable person knows they are not news, but entertainment.
All the videos dammning biden...strange, they were not used in the presidential campaign.
Just as with Nazi Germany, blame your opponent of the things you do..blame, "them" for all the ills.
None of trumps con is new..the internet just allowed the virus to spread..
 
o2b said:
I previously quoted the first 10 seconds of the video you complained about:
It begins with Biden saying, "We already have a nigger mayor and we don't need any more nigger big shots."

I mean...it is a video of Biden saying these words!

Humor me with how that is some useless triviality.

On this thread, YOU are pointless.
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Are you aware that he is at a hearing, reading a memo from the office of a Reagan nominee? If so are you willfully smearing the President of the United States.?And why would you do that?
 
No, I was not aware, I did not willfully smear him, and I wouldn't do that.
 
Just so I am clear.........Knowingly smearing Trump is not only OK but, is encouraged, however someone making an honest mistake about Biden is forbidden?
What "ist" is someone going to throw my way now?

I certainly understand that no one on here is about to change their minds (for the most part that is illegal anyhow) and it is just as clear that very few have ACTUALLY thought this situation thru. Regardless of who thinks they are right and that the other side is beyond evil, this can't end well. At some point in time (to play in stereotypes) the fine folks of say; Texas, Alabama, Kansas. Georgia, North Dakota, Indiana, just to name a few, are going to finally say enough is enough and will decide to seriously not play well with others. Which of course is why the motivation to violate the Second Amendment by those on the left. And as neat as some folks think that is going to be it is more likely to be a hell few can conceptualize.

But one example. Trump and his supporters honestly believe the 2020 election was stolen/rigged/not fair. The Biden supporters believe it was on the up and up (Biden himself knows the truth and said so on T.V. during the campaign - I will attempt to "document" that as well later). So in an attempt to try and clarify the out come, efforts had been made and efforts are being made to re-document the results. Biden/DNC/his supporters have done literally everything to get that process from starting in some locations and stopped in others for reason at least myself are not clear about. Why wouldn't the truth want to be known? As has been stated, there are I believe, 9 cameras live at all times watching the process in Arizona as well as the committees own documentation. If Biden did win legitimately it would be logical to think everyone would support the process to shut Trump and his supporters up and finally move on to better things.
 
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/1...d-organization-in-history-of-politics-988827/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-admit-voter-fraud/

This both sides can mis-represent. Snopes (known left leaning - it is more than a lean) is trying to make the case the Biden/DNC didn't say what they said and aren't doing what they did.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-biden-voter-protection-not-idUSKBN27E2VH

(to be further documented)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...spoke-campaigns-voter-protections/6061563002/

https://freedomwire.com/time-magazine-rigged-election/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._inaccurate_voter_registrations__142089.html#!
Anyone can look up the original Time article

Regardless of what side one is on the USA Today story is quite educational. They use the Snopes article to make their point in their own article that Trump et al is full of poppey. With nothing to back any of that up in the process.



I am computer handicapped and may have a number of these if I can't figure out how to compile them. (there is your open door to assail me - obviously I figured it out - never mind)
 
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larry806q said:
Just so I am clear.........Knowingly smearing Trump is not only OK but, is encouraged, however someone making an honest mistake about Biden is forbidden?.
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You bring up something I have sure been thoughtful of. I didn't even post the video. What I quoted is horrible and I was naive enough to take it as I heard it. And I am sorry for that. And while I am sure taken in a mistaken fashion, it is the worst thing Biden said, his behavior around racism remains. It's just plenty bad.

Meanwhile, Trump is referred to as "a raging pedophile" without certain proof of claim.

So, I get called out for my transgression, but, there is no calling out such an allegation about Trump? And no one of a liberal persuasion decided to chime in, "Hey, I hate Trump, but that is just plain out of order."

Juxtapose calling me out, but not calling out for that? Astonishing. Breathtaking.

At least I know what I am dealing with here.
 
I started doing Flynn like I said I would. I went into the documentary I mentioned and started scribing everything it says related to Flynn and realized it would take quite awhile. The wind kind of left my sails. I don't know if I have the heart for it.
 
It's been awhile, but at the advice of a friend I listened to a lot of Jordan Peterson. He's Canadian, but if not for the left playing group-identity politics, I've no doubt if he was American, he would consistently vote Dem.

Group identity politics was big with Marxism. The proletariat versus the bourgeoisie (wow, is that a hard word to spell!). Marxism espouses aspiring toward what it sees as a utopian destination, but the thing is, the underlying ethic is adversarial. It's an us against them construct. So even though the desired outcome may be virtuous, the underlying morality is altogether evil.

Marxist regimes murdered over 100 million of its own people in the 20th century (primarily USSR, Red China, and Cambodia). Adversarial group identity politics is the acorn. The tree (read: its ultimate manifestation) has already been painfully realized.

Post-modernists do the same, but the group division is generic and with the following terminology - oppressed versus oppressor.

Same thing.

Men versus women. Straight versus gay. Whites versus blacks.

In the last couple of years, I have seen videos of leftists calling for the complete eradication of the white race. I have seen the likes of Maxine Waters, Schumer, Pelosi, and Kamala Harris say, "We're coming after you."

I saw enough news footage of our cities being ravaged. Portland, Minneapolis.

Been there. Done that. We know the playbook.

The main problem with today's leftism is that a significant facet of its underlying ethic is pure evil and it is evil of the exact type that thought to justify the massacre of over 100 million lives.
 
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acd said:
Pence is a pedophile? Based on what? More salty feelings about Trump's loss?

Can you just go to court over hearsay and speculation and feelings of disappointment? None of it was admissible. Maybe Trump and supporters should seek proper venue to share their inability to work through disappointment. Therapy. A therapist will help to work through all of that.
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:tearsofjoy:
 
o2b said:
You bring up something I have sure been thoughtful of. I didn't even post the video. What I quoted is horrible and I was naive enough to take it as I heard it. And I am sorry for that. And while I am sure taken in a mistaken fashion, it is the worst thing Biden said, his behavior around racism remains. It's just plenty bad.

Meanwhile, Trump is referred to as "a raging pedophile" without certain proof of claim.

So, I get called out for my transgression, but, there is no calling out such an allegation about Trump? And no one of a liberal persuasion decided to chime in, "Hey, I hate Trump, but that is just plain out of order."

Juxtapose calling me out, but not calling out for that? Astonishing. Breathtaking.

At least I know what I am dealing with here.
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Actually you don't or you wouldn't take it personally.
 
o2b said:
It's been awhile, but at the advice of a friend I listened to a lot of Jordan Peterson. He's Canadian, but if not for the left playing group-identity politics, I've no doubt if he was American, he would consistently vote Dem.

Group identity politics was big with Marxism. The proletariat versus the bourgeoisie (wow, is that a hard word to spell!). Marxism espouses aspiring toward what it sees as a utopian destination, but the thing is, the underlying ethic is adversarial. It's an us against them construct. So even though the desired outcome may be virtuous, the underlying morality is altogether evil.

Marxist regimes murdered over 100 million of its own people in the 20th century (primarily USSR, Red China, and Cambodia). Adversarial group identity politics is the acorn. The tree (read: its ultimate manifestation) has already been painfully realized.

Post-modernists do the same, but the group division is generic and with the following terminology - oppressed versus oppressor.

Same thing.

Men versus women. Straight versus gay. Whites versus blacks.

In the last couple of years, I have seen videos of leftists calling for the complete eradication of the white race. I have seen the likes of Maxine Waters, Schumer, Pelosi, and Kamala Harris say, "We're coming after you."

I saw enough news footage of our cities being ravaged. Portland, Minneapolis.

Been there. Done that. We know the playbook.

The main problem with today's leftism is that a significant facet of its underlying ethic is pure evil and it is evil of the exact type that thought to justify the massacre of over 100 million lives.
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As I posted earlier - you truly don't understand what you are dealing with. None of what you have suggested as been "documented" i.e. it has not been printed in a left, at least leaning publication to be valid. Identity politics was big with Marxism only because Trump said so. Of course it is adversarial - it is suppose to be - the proletariat are being abused/hosed/taken advantage of/minimized/discriminated against - the list goes on. It is only evil because YOU said so.....the folks in Venezuela just didn't do it correctly! The 100 million deaths can't be documented and the number is the serious fabrication of some right wing loon - most notably Trump. And yes again! Women NEED to fight back against their oppressors (men), The straight population as you so heinously describe it is indeed horrible in their treatment of the LBGTQRUNBC community. And since the beginning of time Whites have (there aren't words bad or evil enough to do this justice) abused blacks.

You have clearly taken what you think you have heard out of context......why should we believe your lying ears? And yet again you mis-understand - they are coming after you to make your life sooooo much better than it is now. Do you seriously think that the Venezuelans deliberately voted for their lives and country to go to complete hell? And what you THINK you saw was 1. contrived, 2. Made to look worse by Fox and was only what Fox wanted you to see the way THEY wanted you to see it. Those demonstrations as was correctly reported by the creditable news source CNN were mostly peaceful - burning buildings in the back ground not with standing.

NO! 1. YOU DON'T *UNDERSTAND* THE PLAYBOOK. AND YOU MOST CERTAINLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYED. Thanks to the kind folks on here I have had to go back and "document" the horror of the last 4 years. In doing so it finally came into view as to what has actually happened and more importantly for me how. A premise that will NEVER as in NEVER EVER be even considered on this list.
 
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