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o2b said:
Yeah, the censorship is unreal. My money is on that which is censored is generally the truth.
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Now you wouldn't know that because it'd be censored
 
Professor Snep said:
Now you wouldn't know that because it'd be censored
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Well, professor, I'll take the liberty to expound on my intended application of my use of the word censored. I mean by what could be characterized as orthodox information sources. Such as the stuff spewing forth from our government, mainstream media, mainstream social media platforms, and corporations.

In other words, not a complete blackout, just a need to find what is censored outside these entities.

Though I would guess you already knew this and was just having a bit of fun (which is totally cool with me).
 
Robert Welch established the John Birch Society and influenced the development of radical right politics in the United States. He would be very happy that his political decedents have used the internet to spread his brand so artfully and thoroughly.
. Men like ... Robert Welch [were] as shrewd as the politicians they despise and vilify, as manipulative as the minority groups they view as threats to the American way. Their way is the right way. NO room exists for debate. They appeal to the fears and distrust of their adherents by feeding on those fears at every Opportunity.Yet, as has been noted, they lack a singular purpose which motivates traditional political factions: a commitment tothe democratic process.
...to a fundamentalist, populist tradition, an "American way" that leaves little room for deviation. It is a norm that must be followed to the letter, like scripture. It is, in the simplest sense, Truth. Anything less would be treason. This super-patriotism has necessitated the existence of the radical right
...[there is] a gigantic Communist conspiracy that seeks to enslave the world through external and internal subversion. The United States, it claims, is under the threat of internalsubversion at both the federal and local levels of government
....the plethora of fears,frustrations and anxieties that have plagued a disenchanted sector of the population, and the channels chosen to reaffirm goals, values and a kind of morality which, it claims, the corrupt prevailing social and political order is out to destroy. To this end, the press of the radical right is a beacon in a bleak, desolate sea of subversion. The rallying point for this philosophical perspective has been conspiracy since the founding of the American colonies, when ethnic and religious groups, in an effort to escape persecution in Europe, fled to the New World only to encounter the same bigoted paranoia of the Old.
.....the United Nations [is] controlled by Communists and wants the United States to withdraw from that organization. It considered sex education in the schools a Communist plot designed to poisonyoung minds. It was concerned about law and order
...The [John Birch] Society took up "Support Your Local Police" programs, charging that policemen were more harrassed than many demonstrators...that individual blacks "might be" Communists. It argued that many white sympathizers with the civil rights movement, and certain blacks--militant or non-violent--including Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., were Communist-directed
....the radical right is the answer to the lies expounded by the respective institutions of the established order. It is that simple. Through selective exposure, perception and retention, the rightist marches toward his goal: restoration of a past that has faded long ago, along with its spirit, its values. Modernity is his chief enemy. It is synonymous with progress, a direct threat to this goal.
ABSTRACT
BEARERS OF DARK TIDINGS:
THE RADICAL RIGHT PRESS
By
Gregory Lee Warfied 1977
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https://d.lib.msu.edu/etd/15898/datastream/OBJ/view
 
FiftySeven said:
Robert Welch established the John Birch Society and influenced the development of radical right politics in the United States. He would be very happy that his political decedents have used the internet to spread his brand so artfully and thoroughly.
https://d.lib.msu.edu/etd/15898/datastream/OBJ/view
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Did you actually read any of that? 1. It's a persons Master Thesis - so? 2. It is his OPINION. 3. He claims the KKK is a right wing group and is part of the Republican/alt-right position? The Democrats started the KKK. 4. The American Nazi Party are SOCIALISTS! The right most certainly does NOT embrace socialism - ever.

All of that aside (since I will concede you have no time for reality) point out where Welch was wrong?

Pulease.
 
larry806q said:
Did you actually read any of that? 1. It's a persons Master Thesis - so? 2. It is his OPINION. 3. He claims the KKK is a right wing group and is part of the Republican/alt-right position? The Democrats started the KKK. 4. The American Nazi Party are SOCIALISTS! The right most certainly does NOT embrace socialism - ever.

All of that aside (since I will concede you have no time for reality) point out where Welch was wrong?

Pulease.
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A masters thesis is not a work of opinion. But anti intellectualism and a disregard for scholarship is to be expected from a radical right, anti democratic political operative.

The Michigan State School of Communication & Journalism is ranked in the top 10% of the country for communication and journalism. More specifically it was ranked #56 out of 874 schools by College Factual. It is also ranked #2 in Michigan.
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https://www.collegefactual.com/coll...ademic-majors/communication-journalism-media/

The KKK was not started by the Democrats, the KKK was and is a radical right wing organization established to deprive non whites of their rights as citizens means of murder and terrorism.

American Nazis are white supremacists, not socialists.
[Hitler] was wholly ignorant of any formal understanding of the principles of economics. For him, as he stated to the industrialists, economics was of secondary importance, entirely subordinated to politics. His crude social-Darwinism dictated his approach to the economy, as it did his entire political “world-view.” Since struggle among nations would be decisive for future survival, Germany’s economy had to be subordinated to the preparation, then carrying out, of this struggle. This meant that liberal ideas of economic competition had to be replaced by the subjection of the economy to the dictates of the national interest. Similarly, any “socialist” ideas in the Nazi programme had to follow the same dictates. Hitler was never a socialist. But although he upheld private property, individual entrepreneurship, and economic competition, and disapproved of trade unions and workers’ interference in the freedom of owners and managers to run their concerns, the state, not the market, would determine the shape of economic development. Capitalism was, therefore, left in place. But in operation it was turned into an adjunct of the state.
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Hitler: A Biography, Ian Kershaw https://blindhypnosis.com/hitler-pdf-ian-kershaw-book.html
 
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Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

Biden has rejected our request to withhold White House information from the House Unselect Committee investigating the January 6th protest, but has not taken a stance on the insurrection that took place on November 3rd, often referred to as the Crime of the Century.

This will put the current White House in a terrible position when the inevitable request for information comes concerning the massive corruption by Hunter Biden and the already well-documented crimes committed by the Biden family, the least of which are Hunter’s paintings selling for as much as $500,000 a piece. With our Country collapsing, with our Military disgraced, with our Borders nonexistent, when will the American people have had enough?
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notice how he called it the "Unselect" Committee? there is a Zinger
He also rightly points out that Hunter Bidden will not get presidential executive privileges because he is not president.(snap!)
....and the criminality of selling a painting for $500,000? (actually only got $75,000)
Wonder what will happen in Georgia....https://www.brookings.edu/research/fulton-county-georgias-trump-investigation/
 
FiftySeven said:
A masters thesis is not a work of opinion. But anti intellectualism and a disregard for scholarship is to be expected from a radical right, anti democratic political operative.

https://www.collegefactual.com/coll...ademic-majors/communication-journalism-media/

The KKK was not started by the Democrats, the KKK was and is a radical right wing organization established to deprive non whites of their rights as citizens means of murder and terrorism.

American Nazis are white supremacists, not socialists.
Hitler: A Biography, Ian Kershaw https://blindhypnosis.com/hitler-pdf-ian-kershaw-book.html
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No, I am not going far with this pissing contest.

You very clearly (as per usual) did not bother to go to the American Nazi Home page. The first page is : "Advancing National Socialism in the 21st Century".
So you may want to take it upon yourself to tell them they are not Sociaiists.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kkk-founded

" In a few southern states, REPUBLICANS organized militia units to break up the Klan."

https://www.albany.edu/history/history316/kkk.html

You will ignore this as well because it's reality but, this is the founding document(s) of the KKK.

One of the applicant questions is: were you ever a Republican Party member? The correct answer for the KKK is no.

https://pipiwiki.com/wiki/John_Porter_(Ku_Klux_Klan_member)

Listing of major political figures who were KKK. There are 2 listed Republicans and one maybe Republican. ALL the rest are DEMOCRATS, Robert Byrd being the latest and best known.
 
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No, I am not going far with this pissing contest.
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Hahahaha.... Pissing contests end up being stinky anyway. Heh...

For my two cents: I grew up in rural south east Texas in a town....population 10K.... with no black people at all. The KKK was alive and well thriving with all of the other 300K "Yellow Dog" Democrats in our large rural area.
My family was part of the very small minority of Catholics in the town and we were ostracized almost as much as all the other colors of peoples the KKK railed against. I was shunned and barred from participating in some groups in school as I grew up strictly because I was NOT southern Baptist.
They erected a huge 20ft tall cross and set it on fire directly next to the stadium in full view .....at a football game when I was a freshman because the opposing team was from an all Black high school.
Later that year a group of the KKK approached my house and talked with my Dad asking him if they could use our place/pasture to hold a rally. When Dad told me that I erupted and said Did you tell them No and Hell NO?
He said absolutely not. He did express as gently and respectfully as he could that he didn't think he could provide good access for vehicles to park etc in order to hold a rally.
I was shocked at his seemingly timidity.
He informed me quite seriously that those KKK guys could just as well come back ...kill my horse....and paint the barn purple and he could do nothing about it.
David Duke....the Grand Dragon himself....lived outside of my small town.
Back in those days the Democrats ran everything and they were strong all across the South.
Texas flipped to Republican about the same time Ronald Reagan took office.
Everything went to hell then.....and the KKK did too....cause their power waned and they frittered away in to Organized Crime.
Now....that's an action the Repubs can get behind. Oh yehhh.... Corruption is rampant...and those Old Democrats turned Republicans just rub their hands with glee.

Just goes to show how things can flip almost overnight because none of the politicians are truthful. They just go where the money goes....ya know. ;)

"Yellow Dog Democrats was a political term applied to voters in the Southern United States who voted solely for candidates who represented the Democratic Party. The term originated in the late 19th century. These voters would allegedly "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican"."
 
Kgal said:
Hahahaha.... Pissing contests end up being stinky anyway. Heh...

For my two cents: I grew up in rural south east Texas in a town....population 10K.... with no black people at all. The KKK was alive and well thriving with all of the other 300K "Yellow Dog" Democrats in our large rural area.
My family was part of the very small minority of Catholics in the town and we were ostracized almost as much as all the other colors of peoples the KKK railed against. I was shunned and barred from participating in some groups in school as I grew up strictly because I was NOT southern Baptist.
They erected a huge 20ft tall cross and set it on fire directly next to the stadium in full view .....at a football game when I was a freshman because the opposing team was from an all Black high school.
Later that year a group of the KKK approached my house and talked with my Dad asking him if they could use our place/pasture to hold a rally. When Dad told me that I erupted and said Did you tell them No and Hell NO?
He said absolutely not. He did express as gently and respectfully as he could that he didn't think he could provide good access for vehicles to park etc in order to hold a rally.
I was shocked at his seemingly timidity.
He informed me quite seriously that those KKK guys could just as well come back ...kill my horse....and paint the barn purple and he could do nothing about it.
David Duke....the Grand Dragon himself....lived outside of my small town.
Back in those days the Democrats ran everything and they were strong all across the South.
Texas flipped to Republican about the same time Ronald Reagan took office.
Everything went to hell then.....and the KKK did too....cause their power waned and they frittered away in to Organized Crime.
Now....that's an action the Repubs can get behind. Oh yehhh.... Corruption is rampant...and those Old Democrats turned Republicans just rub their hands with glee.

Just goes to show how things can flip almost overnight because none of the politicians are truthful. They just go where the money goes....ya know. ;)

"Yellow Dog Democrats was a political term applied to voters in the Southern United States who voted solely for candidates who represented the Democratic Party. The term originated in the late 19th century. These voters would allegedly "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican"."
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Some of us know well that in the masonic lodges the dems and repubs are best friends after all both parties are two wings of the same buzzard. Hell Texas has a couple thousand of these lodges as even the small middle of nowhere towns has one.
 
Roses In The Vineyard said:
Some of us know well that in the masonic lodges the dems and repubs are best friends after all both parties are two wings of the same buzzard. Hell Texas has a couple thousand of these lodges as even the small middle of nowhere towns has one.
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Indeed Roses you are correct.... they are. As a government grant funded contractor I witnessed it going on alllll around me in all institutions at the higher levels. You gotta watch their eyes to know the truth because they play the game well. ;) They are both sides of the same coin....and they play Good Cop Bad Cop all day long.
 
radical right wing politics is not republican (or even conservative) or democrat, it is racist, xenophobic, and anti-democratic. I realize this is a difficult concept to understand but look into it and you will see what I am talking about.

 

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The Democratic Party was established as such by Andrew Jackson in the early 1800s. Try to wrap your mind around the idea that those Democrats and the Democrats that support Barack Obama, Elizabeth Warren and Joe Bidden are fundamentally different people, separated by time and history. During the Civil war the Democratic party was against recognizing the rights and humanity of the enslaved Black population (and the non-enslaved Black population) it was on board with the continued genocide of the American Indian population and was fervently against the rising political power of the Irish Catholic migrants. It was a Nativist party.

As the urbanization and industrialization transformed the US the Democratic Party also slowly changed, it became more and more a party of the urban working population and as such had to evolve to allow first the Irish Catholics, then the Italian Catholics, then the Eastern Europeans until finally, in the late 1950s it started opening up to the idea of trying to codify the civil rights of Black Americans.

So when people say that the KKK was started by the Democratic Party in the sense that Nativist Americans who were Democrats started the KKK and kept it going, that is true. But after the fight for Civil Rights Bill the old nativist democrats began to flee the party, mainly because they did not agree with the ideals of the Civil Rights Act.
To be clear, the Civil Rights Act did not solve the problem of Racism against Black Americans. In fact the realization that it did not and, by itself, could not is the catalyst for the social-legal analysis that is Critical Race Theory.
Are there Racist Democrats? Sure, boatloads of them. Has the Democratic party evolved over the decades to champion the rights of non white Americans...? I would say more then the firkin GOP and certainly more that the radical right which seems more concerned with ...whatever you want to call that stinking pile of hatred that they spew.
 
FiftySeven said:
radical right wing politics is not republican (or even conservative) or democrat, it is racist, xenophobic, and anti-democratic. I realize this is a difficult concept to understand but look into it and you will see what I am talking about.

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So, do your average run of the mill Trump supporters have racist, xenophobic, and anti-democratic characteristics? Or are they simply deluded fools who fail to see that Trump is racist, xenophobic, and anti-democratic?

Your statement is ~99.99% sheer fantasy. You are a vessel through which The Matrix spews forth its false reality.
 
My thoughts on bringing up my life experiences with the KKK was to show how it might very well have plausible the Democracts founded/funded the KKK....and that...both parties essentially hold core hidden policies of divisiveness, greed, and fear mongering.... and they never really change. Only the party name changes.
I have over 40 years of doing my "civic duty" and voting within the American voting process and I voted Democrat for probably 80% of the time strictly based upon what I thought I knew about the candidate.
To my great surprise I have seen enough(my own direct experiences) in the last 7 years to make me step back away from the democrats and then I stopped participating in the whole process.
I have come to see that I thought I was making a Choice....but not really. That's the true scam on the American people. There is no real choice for the prez or any of the top level seats of power.
Now do I know why? Or who is really pulling the strings on this puppet we call a Democracy? No. I only know it's not what I've been taught to believe in.
 
can a person be deluded and not be a fool...
Mr Anderson?
 
Kgal said:
... I stopped participating in the whole process.
I have come to see that I thought I was making a Choice....but not really. That's the true scam on the American people. There is no real choice for the prez or any of the top level seats of power.
Now do I know why? Or who is really pulling the strings on this puppet we call a Democracy? No. I only know it's not what I've been taught to believe in.
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In your experience, is it better or worse to have health insurance? Is is better or worse to have Social Security?Is it better or worse for birth control to be free and available to all women? Is it better or worse for you to be able to determine whether or not you will carry a pregnancy to term? Or are these choices merely illusions?
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