US > Iran conflict begins

good point. I should probably specify that ----Iran is being actively bombed at for 40 days now.

There is a reason why there is a growing number of scholars with a staunch anti imperialist advocacy.
I think Ian was also referring to the era of the Shah of Persia and the Ayatollahs' rise to power through brute force. I might be wrong, but that’s how I interpreted it..


Clearly, we don't remember those who died during that coup; they are just the 'necessary price' for an illegitimate revolution. Not that the Shah was any better, but just look at the photos from before and after the Ayatollahs...

-Giammarco
 
I think Ian was also referring to the era of the Shah of Persia and the Ayatollahs' rise to power through brute force. I might be wrong, but that’s how I interpreted it..
I was referring to CIA and MI5 fuckery.

Cheers,
Ian
 
Exactly. From the '53 Ajax fuckery to the '79 fallout, it's a long chain of events where the bill is always paid by the same people..

-Giammarco
 
Unsurprising considering the power alliances in that region. Also entertaining how the official framed it as such. Many of these were corporate assets such as Amazon Data centers and petrochemical processing stations co owned by the state and private actors. The article was framed such that it looked like residential neighborhoods were bombed, when actually it was rich-people owned infra like the hotels on Palm Jumeirah.

Iran was honestly strategic and precise ----it targetted assets with very clear US or Israel alliances and/or assets that will very clearly hurt the US economy. Iran also issued advisories to civilians, if I am not mistaken.

Meanwhile, Palestinian civilians are being raped, murdered, and buried alive by IDF soldiers without remorse.

the weighing scale is tipping a certain why, but which one is actually more evil?
 
I usually think my imagination is upper crust on account of the Ne+ADHD, but I’m weaksauce next to this stuff. 🤪

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Makes me think about the feather in Forest Gump at both the beginning and the end.
 
the weighing scale is tipping a certain why, but which one is actually more evil?

Never thought to judge something as such. Most people of the billions will do something evil in their lifetime, and some of the billions of people will live their lifetimes doing evil.
Is it evil to know what is good, but still choose the path that can be influential to do evil? Rhetorical question.
 
Yeah, that is also my hope, but you're right. What AI is bringing in is driving me completely out of my mind. I remember arguing with @Rit4lin about the potential sentience of AI and I argued how the chaos of humanity is far too different from the boolean logic, therefore this imagined eater utopia with only bots in the matrix while we're hooked to pods is possiby centuries forward but it is increasingly starting to feel like it's just across the horizon. I'm thinking Rit is right on this AI superintelligence becoming sentient and I'm probably wrong.

It won't be a perfect transitition, but I am sensing AI is coming so fast. What I particularly liked about Keen's analysis in that episode though is his foregrounding of the biosphere as a key player and game changer in all this. People like to imagine the productivity from these bots and data centers while disregarding whether or not there is enough water or copper or soil for these systems. Many AI enthusiasts like to argue that when AI reaches superintelligence, none of that will matter because then AI will be able to produce matter out of thin air, but I am very hesitant. Even if we are able to harness energies that won't harm the biosphere, we don't really understand the aftereffects.

We could be hitting a dinosaur/ Easter-Island extinction level here if AI goes on unchecked or the AI genuises are perfectly right and then our human specie becomes more obsolete over time.
I just come here to shake the cobwebs off this profile every now and then, your mention scared me min:mlight:
 
I just come here to shake the cobwebs off this profile every now and then, your mention scared me min:mlight:
Good to see you! 🎉

Blesséd Be,
Ian
 
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