Youth Going Through Gender Transition Are More At Risk Of Psychiatric Issues

Fruiteloop said:
Not sure what I am suposed to be agreeing or dissagreeing with in that video?

She lists "symptoms" then says how the are treated (surgery, affirmation/acceptance of the person)

So maybe you could say the distress is the illness but she does not state any actual causes.

Not stating acual causes is my whole problem with psychiatry.

But the distress is real.

I have seen that most mental illnesses are actually because of malnutrition and or dieses in the body/brain we label as mental illness.

Only recentlly have doctors for example been able to find actual links between biological functions in alzhiemers and working treatments.

Many treatments for Alzheimer's cost little money and not billions on a single medication so they are not funded as much.
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It’s an easy question : yes or no?

-Giammarco
 
Fruiteloop said:
Are you trying to trap me?

What if I say yes, what if I say no?
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Exactly. You built your own trap and now I will show you how.
Fruiteloop said:
You think being trans is a mental illness and will you not look into the alternatives of why its not.

I guess because its your interpretation of the bible and no facts or arguments will change your mind. You just ignore them.

So you ignore them on purpose of because of something else.

I cannot tell what that something else is.

It might be: "I understand the bible better than these people so I am right about how being trans is a mental illness".

That is all I can think of.
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Fruiteloop said:
I do not think you understand yet again.
That is no way invalidates gender dysphoric people have the psychology they do.
If the gender dysphoric person has a brain gender opposite to the genitalia then this is the cause.

You believe having a penis automatically will make the brain male but it does not.
If brains are male or female we can say there can be a mismatch.
When you have a penis and that does not make the brain male automatically.
You can have a female brain in a body with a penis that does not make a mental illness

So being as it were that they do have the opposite brain gender to the genitalia that in no way means they have a mental illness.

If the genitalia does not match the psychology that does not make you mentally ill because:

Having a male psychology does not make you mentally ill
Having a female psychology does not make you mentally ill

Let me again say psychology of males and females is different so that in no way invalidates subjective experience.
Simply there is distress because they feel they are in the wrong body and that is correct because they have opposite brains to the genitalia.
Experience of ones psychology is not invalidating the experience of ones genitalia as a mismatch which is the case in these people.
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Fruiteloop said:
We experience the physical in a subjective way.

Unless you are a rock then there is a feeling of what it is to be male and a feeling of what it is to be female.

The origination of the feeling would derive from the source of brain morphology in males and females.

Male/Female brain -> subjective experience of male/female psychology

You do understand that females have a different psychology than males and it comes from brain morphology correct?
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Soooooooo what is the doctor saying?

-Giammarco
 
Akar said:
Exactly. You built your own trap and now I will show you how.



Soooooooo what is the doctor saying?

-Giammarco
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Are you saying that psychiatry sees some condition as a mental illness?

If so let me see it in the DSM-V and I will consider it.

I am neutral as to that yes or no question but you seem like a person who not genuinely interested in truth but just want to push people around.
 
Fruiteloop said:
Are you saying that psychiatry sees some condition as a mental illness?

If so let me see it in the DSM-V and I will consider it.

I am neutral as to that yes or no question but you seem like a person who not genuinely interested in truth but just want to push people around.
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Loooool
Loooooooooooool
I’m not saying it , a psychiatrist is explaining
Loooool

-Giammarco
 
Fruiteloop said:
I watched it but you are not giving me any options but to think you are trying to trap me.

good luck
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How does it taste ? Cause you did the exact damn thing on Quick.
you can’t even answer to yes or no without falling in your own logic built on bs
Peace
-Giammarco
 
QuickTwist said:
LOL.

What is the Pro-transitioning political agenda then? Communism?
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It is not political at all. Its necessary medical care for those with gender dysphoria. Bigots are the ones who make it political and go against what medical organizations have to say about it and turn it into a political issue.

If they would leave us alone, this would just be a regular health issue like any other health issue, but they are intent on denying us care in order to kill as many of us as they can manage.
 
Akar said:
exactly.

she a doctor.

-Giammarco
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yes you are disingenuous I agree

The DSM-V is consensuses reality so I guess if she is a real doctor and read it she must be right I supose?

Being gay was mental illness because of consensuses reality in the past.

So I am not sure what to think anymore.
 
Fruiteloop said:
yes you are disingenuous I agree

The DSM-V is consensuses reality so I guess if she is a real doctor and read it she must be right I supose?

Being gay was mental illness because of consensuses reality in the past.

So I am not sure what to think anymore.
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lol you have no clue what you are talking about
I'm laughing hard man

edit: i assume you're a man, from the vibes

-Giammarco
 
Akar said:
lol you have no clue what you are talking about
I'm laughing hard man

edit: i assume you're a man, from the vibes

-Giammarco
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What is so fun about trapping people?

Do you really think psychiatry is a good tool?

It seem you don't care about how it works?

Being male is something I have trouble with just because I have feelings sometime but I am heterosexual.
 
Fruiteloop said:
What is so fun about trapping people?

Do you really think psychiatry is a good tool?

It seem you don't care about how it works?

Being male is something I have trouble with just because I have feelings sometime but I am heterosexual.
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Looooooooool

The fun is not in 'trapping' people, Fruit. The fun is watching a 'logical' structure collapse when it meets the Truth.

You’re asking if psychiatry is a good tool? It’s not about being 'good', it’s about being real. Reality doesn't care about your 'troubles with being male' or your subjective feelings. Reality is what remains when you stop believing in your own BS.

You spent pages trying to dismantle Quick using 'science' and 'brain morphology', but the moment that same science (the Doctor) validates a frame you don't like, you retreat into: 'psychiatry is bad' and 'I have feelings'.

That is not logic. That is intellectual dishonesty.

You are not trapped by me. You are trapped by the inconsistency of your own ego. You use 'facts' as a weapon and 'feelings' as a shield. Choose one, because in the realm of the Logos, you can’t have both.

Peace.

-Giammarco
 
Akar said:
Looooooooool

The fun is not in 'trapping' people, Fruit. The fun is watching a 'logical' structure collapse when it meets the Truth.

You’re asking if psychiatry is a good tool? It’s not about being 'good', it’s about being real. Reality doesn't care about your 'troubles with being male' or your subjective feelings. Reality is what remains when you stop believing in your own BS.

You spent pages trying to dismantle Quick using 'science' and 'brain morphology', but the moment that same science (the Doctor) validates a frame you don't like, you retreat into: 'psychiatry is bad' and 'I have feelings'.

That is not logic. That is intellectual dishonesty.

You are not trapped by me. You are trapped by the inconsistency of your own ego. You use 'facts' as a weapon and 'feelings' as a shield. Choose one, because in the realm of the Logos, you can’t have both.

Peace.

-Giammarco
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What was I not being logical about?

How do my feelings invalidate those logical structures I purported to use.

It seems to me if you cared about logic and reality and not about your own ego you'd listen to what i have to say.

Traping people is not something i find interesteing but I only state what i believe is true.

I never ask people yes / no questions because that's requireing me to finght battles that make me look stupid.

If you think I am BSing you do not know me and thus far have now real understanding of what I am saying.

What is wrong with what i am saying?

You have no clue

Just garbage logic.

That is why I said what I said because if what I am saying is not true you expect me to admit when I am wrong but you don't care about that. Its just a game to you and you do not treat people as individuals but as games.
 
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