Anyone met a Twin Flame?

Wyote said:
This whole thread be like
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When you love someone that shit don’t matter lol
 
David Nelson said:
Taking things too literally again and assuming what Larry meant. This is a forum not a discussion between 2 people, so I am allowed to interject. Your point is only valid insofar as it is interpreted or as the person who wrote it meant it. As a statement in isolation, it is highly open to different interpretations.
I’m also offended by you saying my thread about non-INFJ opinions of INFJs was stupid or similar words (plus the allusion this was an INFJ trait in general). Pretty down on INFJs aren’t we?!
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You don't understand anything and I don't have the mental space to explain all the ways you are wrong.

But ok, form your alliances. Believe whatever you want.
 
Okay take a breath and give it a moment. The posts will still be here later. Going about our day for a moment to let things process usually results in clearer insights.

For the record @David Nelson it was never my intention to invalidate your experience. I'm sorry if I did, and if I didn't then so much the better.
 
Wyote said:
This whole thread be like
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Appropriate!!!!!

David Nelson said:
Yes, some of the doubting and dismissive posts are very insensitive I feel.
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Orrr, highly sensitive but intolerant.

You know you are entitled to your pain. Different experiences need not be markers of insensitivity or even attacks to personality. I'm pretty sure some of us are tough people with senses of humor and viewpoints incongruent to yours (myself included), but not all these points necessarily have to be intended for invalidation, specifically. It started as a discussion board so the different perspectives shouldn't be disqualified nor required to tread with sensitivity. If anything, the varied experiences could be a springboard for the mental jumping jack you need to do in order to resolve this internally. Further, anything ceases to be insensitive when you are able to filter which ones you let get under your skin. Your emotions, which many people probably do not know about, is not their primary responsibility. Chances are, people are just expressing their own emotions and opinions which are equally valid.

It's good that you are feeling better. Focus on getting better. You got this.
 
larry806q said:
Where did David suggest he was seeking his salvation thru her?
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Oh let me make it clear that I wasn't commenting on the specifics of @David Nelson 's relationship to this young lady. I'd need to know a lot more both about him and about her before I could do that. David, I hope you find your way to a fulfilling and lasting partnership with someone.

It's the scripting of the twin flames myth that I have a lot of reservations about, at least in the terms it is expressed in the OP. I put this in a comment a page or so back, and the discussion following that was in the same vein. I'm pointing out that it carries a significant risk of a transference onto the other party and if that happens, it can become a negative and very damaging dark night rather than a positive one for either or both people, to use the terminology of the video.
 
I’ve never felt an attraction like this to anyone, ever before. My intentions towards her are as pure as the driven snow. I feel I would do anything for her, give her anything she wanted or needed. I am by nature very cautious of people, especially in letting them get close to me, but for this girl I have no worries/qualms. It’s hard to explain, it just feels like the right thing to do. Her age is irrelevant, I just sense a deep connection.

I really don’t know if I am right or wrong about how she feels about me. But I can’t help how I feel about her. Asa/slant can totally relate as she has explained. I’ve tried all through this, which has gone on for over 6 months, to avoid getting too attached without knowing if she feels similar in any way. It has been hard, a kind of emotional limbo. I know how it must look to outsiders, but I have to follow my heart, even if it is to no avail. At least I can say I tried without looking back with regret. Only a fool turns down the potential for love in this life imo. The luckiest person who lives is the one who finds true love, don’t ever give up on that dream.
 
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David Nelson said:
I’ve never felt an attraction like this to anyone, ever before. My intentions towards her are as pure as the driven snow. I feel I would do anything for her, give her anything she wanted or needed. I am by nature very cautious of people, especially in letting them get close to me, but for this girl I have no worries/qualms. It’s hard to explain, it just feels like the right thing to do. Her age is irrelevant, I just sense a deep connection.

I really don’t know if I am right or wrong about how she feels about me. But I can’t help how I feel about her. Asa can totally relate as she has explained. I’ve tried all through this, which has gone on for over 6 months, to avoid getting too attached without knowing if she feels similar in any way. It has been hard, a kind of emotional limbo. I know how it must look to outsiders, but I have to follow my heart, even if it is to no avail. At least I can say I tried without looking back with regret. Only a fool turns down the potential for love in this life imo. The luckiest person who lives is the one who finds true love, don’t ever give up on that dream.
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I haven't had that depth of feeling of connection myself, but what I have felt for some people - it's as if I've known them from other lifetimes as very close friends or family. I don't mean that this is so, but just that it seems like it. They feel like my people from the beginning of time. It's quite independent of gender or age. It's a much less imperative feeling than you describe, but is maybe on the same sort of spectrum. I've never felt the need to express this to them, and they'd probably think I was barmy if I did.

Your situation is much more imperative though, because there is a lot more at stake for you. Do you have anything to lose by being up front and telling her directly how you feel about her? It might be better to have a firm yes or no from her, once she's absorbed what you say, than live in a sort of limbo of unrequited hope.
 
David Nelson said:
Only a fool turns down the potential for love in this life imo. The luckiest person who lives is the one who finds true love, don’t ever give up on that dream.
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Based on these statements, I am the luckiest fool. I like fortunate better, but I’ll go with luckiest.

By being a fool first, I was ready and able to be lucky later. :)

And I never gave up on my dream. Neither did she. ❤️

Cheers,
Ian
 
John K said:
I haven't had that depth of feeling of connection myself, but what I have felt for some people - it's as if I've known them from other lifetimes as very close friends or family. I don't mean that this is so, but just that it seems like it. They feel like my people from the beginning of time. It's quite independent of gender or age. It's a much less imperative feeling than you describe, but is maybe on the same sort of spectrum. I've never felt the need to express this to them, and they'd probably think I was barmy if I did.

Your situation is much more imperative though, because there is a lot more at stake for you. Do you have anything to lose by being up front and telling her directly how you feel about her? It might be better to have a firm yes or no from her, once she's absorbed what you say, than live in a sort of limbo of unrequited hope.
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I did tell her in a text that I had fallen in love with her last week. I also said I felt a soul connection and had never felt anything like it before. She ignored the text for 2 days. I sent another then she replied denying any similar feelings for me plus annoyance I had texted her etc etc.. Then she blocked me. I was a bit testy in my third text, so can understand some reaction from her. I got her number from a shared WhatsApp group where all see each other’s number. I don’t see why texting her was such a big deal as my plumber is in WhatsApp like many other people and I already know her. When I next see her it should provide me with much more knowledge of her mental state/feelings as she now knows exactly how I feel, and that I know she knows. I do struggle with the fact she is a very cagey individual. She gives very little away. Always holding back.

Just to add her very cold texting and reaction does not at all fit with the person I see in her. It’s like a different person. Something is not right about that, which makes me curious. But I have to assume for now she meant every word. Ball is in her court.
 
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David Nelson said:
I did tell her in a text that I had fallen in love with her last week. I also said I felt a soul connection and had never felt anything like it before. She ignored the text for 2 days. I sent another then she replied denying any similar feelings for me plus annoyance I had texted her etc etc.. Then she blocked me. I was a bit testy in my third text, so can understand some reaction from her. I got her number from a shared WhatsApp group where all see each other’s number. I don’t see why texting her was such a big deal as my plumber is in WhatsApp like many other people and I already know her. When I next see her it should provide me with much more knowledge of her mental state/feelings as she now knows exactly how I feel, and that I know she knows. I do struggle with the fact she is a very cagey individual. She gives very little away. Always holding back.

Just to add her very cold texting and reaction does not at all fit with the person I see in her. It’s like a different person. Something is not right about that, which makes me curious. But I have to assume for now she meant every word. Ball is in her court.
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Do you have a shared circle of people that you both socialise with? It might help to meet her frequently in such a context, which would be a 'safe' one for both of you, and allow things to develop if this is going anywhere. The way you describe her response does sound pretty full stop and it might be only through that sort of interaction in a group that she might change her mind. It would help enormously if you had a good intuitive feel for what it looks like to her, from the inside - and what she's wanting out of life too, and how you might relate to it. It may well be that she has things all sketched out to use the time till she's mid-30s and established professionally then have 2 or 3 children for example - that's pretty typical of my nieces and nephew who are a similar age to her.
 
David Nelson said:
I did tell her in a text that I had fallen in love with her last week. I also said I felt a soul connection and had never felt anything like it before. She ignored the text for 2 days. I sent another then she replied denying any similar feelings for me plus annoyance I had texted her etc etc.. Then she blocked me. I was a bit testy in my third text, so can understand some reaction from her. I got her number from a shared WhatsApp group where all see each other’s number. I don’t see why texting her was such a big deal as my plumber is in WhatsApp like many other people and I already know her. When I next see her it should provide me with much more knowledge of her mental state/feelings as she now knows exactly how I feel, and that I know she knows. I do struggle with the fact she is a very cagey individual. She gives very little away. Always holding back.

Just to add her very cold texting and reaction does not at all fit with the person I see in her. It’s like a different person. Something is not right about that, which makes me curious. But I have to assume for now she meant every word. Ball is in her court.
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Of course she meant every word. You have evidently made her uncomfortable.
Do not presume that being in a group gives you a right to privately message a woman. This is a privilege to be earned, with their consent in nearly any scenario.
The ball isn't in her court. She threw it back at you when she blocked you. Move on.
 
Two Non-Negotiable Rules for Men Interested in Women
  1. don’t scare her, don’t creep her out, don’t violate the social contract—if you do, it’s over and done—move on.
  2. if she says no, explicitly or otherwise, it means no—no hidden meaning—nothing between the lines—move on.
Why did I post this? Because:
  • so many men don’t know #1 and ignore #2 which doubles down on #1
  • I’ve talked with many women about these issues, and this is universal, and most guys don’t get it
David, my sense is you did #1 so she had to be emphatic with #2, because after doing #1, you didn’t move on.

Cheers,
Ian
 
Rit4lin said:
Of course she meant every word. You have evidently made her uncomfortable.
Do not presume that being in a group gives you a right to privately message a woman. This is a privilege to be earned, with their consent in nearly any scenario.
The ball isn't in her court. She threw it back at you when she blocked you. Move on.
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You may be right but you don’t know she meant every word. People can lie.
 
aeon said:
Two Non-Negotiable Rules for Men Interested in Women
  1. don’t scare her, don’t creep her out, don’t violate the social contract—if you do, it’s over and done—move on.
  2. if she says no, explicitly or otherwise, it means no—no hidden meaning—nothing between the lines—move on.
Why did I post this? Because:
  • so many men don’t know #1 and ignore #2 which doubles down on #1
  • I’ve talked with many women about these issues, and this is universal, and most guys don’t get it
David, my sense is you did #1 so she had to be emphatic with #2, because after doing #1, you didn’t move on.

Cheers,
Ian
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She has never told me she wasn’t interested up to the point of her only text, so how could I have moved on? Now that she has done that, of course I move on. I never got to your point 2. As I have said if she really thinks what she texted, then nothing more will happen obvs. The TF theory may or may not apply, but if it does, your theories above break down then, because rejection is common there, followed by complete changes of mind. That doesn’t mean I carry on trying with her, it means she sees me differently and changes her mind. People have a right to do that and can do that.
 
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