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The information in these info-graphics is totally false, for example the percentage of homosexuals can not exceed 1% of population, read this:

The famous Kinsey Institute report often is cited as evidence that 10% of the population is homosexual. In his book, Is It a Choice?: Answers to 300 of the Most Frequently Asked Questions About Gays and Lesbians, Eric Marcus used the Kinsey studies to demonstrate that one in ten people is homosexual (1993). In truth, Kinsey never reported figures that high. The Kinsey Report clearly stated that: “Only about 4 percent of the men [evaluated] were exclusively homosexual throughout their entire lives.... Only 2 or 3 percent of these women were exclusively homosexual their entire lives” (see Reinisch and Beasley, 1990, p. 140). However, there is good reason to believe that the real percentage is not even this high.

While no one has carried out a door-to-door census, we do have a fairly accurate estimate. Interestingly, these statistics came to light in an amicus curiae (“friend of the court”) brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court on March 26, 2003, in the Lawrence vs. Texas case (commonly known as the Texas sodomy case). On page 16 of this legal brief, footnote 42 revealed that 31 homosexual and pro-homosexual groups admitted the following:

The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Laumann, et al., 1994).

The study also found that only 0.9% of men and 0.4% of women reported having only same-sex partners since age 18–a figure that would represent a total of only 1.4 million Americans as homosexual (based on the last census report, showing roughly 292 million people living in America). The resulting accurate figures demonstrate that significantly less than one percent of the American population claims to be homosexual. The NHSLS results are similar to a survey conducted by the Minnesota Adolescent Health Survey (1986) of public school students. The survey showed that only 0.6% of the boys and 0.2% of the girls identified themselves as “mostly or 100% homosexual.”

The 2000 census sheds even more light on the subject. The overall statistics from the 2000 Census Bureau revealed:

The total population of the U.S. is 285,230,516.
The total number of households in the U.S. is 106,741,426.
The total number of unmarried same-sex households is 601,209.

Thus, out of a population of 106,741,426 households, homosexuals represent 0.42% of those households. That is less than one half of one percent!

But since most people are not mathematicians, we would like to make this point in a way that most individuals will be able to better comprehend. If we were to start a new television sitcom, and wanted to accurately portray homosexual ratios in society, we would need 199 heterosexual actors before we finally introduced one homosexual actor.

And yet modern television casts of three or four often include one or more homosexual actor(s). The statistics from the 2000 census are not figures grabbed from the air and placed on a political sign or Web site to promote a particular agenda. These were census data that were carefully collected from the entire United States population, contrary to the limited scope of studies designed to show a genetic cause for homosexuality.

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The entire issue with just about everything that humans do to each other is a lack of respect for each other. If I were totally and utterly wrong about something, I'd like it explained to me in a decent manner. When people get riled up, the part of their brain that does thinking, especially new thinking, shuts down. Ergo, not the best way to evangelize. Might explain why it's gone on for 12 pages.

I've just gotten tired of fighting over things that would never be an issue if people just behaved kindly with each other. The evidence is nice, though.:)

Edit: Mountain climbers are people too, but I guess not all goats are around mountains.
 
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Two gays get "married", adopt a child, and the child turns out gay. Choice made by his so-called parents? Would the child tend to be cheated of what some folk call a normal life?
 
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just me said:
Two gays get "married", adopt a child, and the child turns out gay. Choice made by his so-called parents? Would the child tend to be cheated of what some folk call a normal life?
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Did your parents sex life make you want to be straight?
 
Lets definitely keep this thread open and thriving. It's doing us all so much good. We're definitely not saying the same things over and over, and pushing each other a part. Reason vs. hate sure is a fun thing to keep around.
 
Grayman said:
What do you mean deserve? Who is deserving or not deserving of understanding. Understanding benefits me. It helps me make more rational decisions. I empathize so that I can understand people. This does not mean I condone their actions, sympathize with them, support them, or even accept their behavior. In regards to people who contribute to destructive behavior. When I saw Ender's Game it put to words something I always known to be true.

“In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game

My personal view of the word "destroy" in this quote is to change in a way that they are no longer the same person.
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I can respect that, but I wonder how true it is. I wonder if something very important to you, an integral part of your being was condemned as wrong, would you be so understanding. Would you really try to see it from the other person's perspective. I have my doubts, but it's not something I'll ever know.

Grayman said:
He is inherently critical and judgmental and people equate this feeling to being attacked. Particularly people who don't handle criticism well. I think his criticism is overbearing and not constructive. I don't find his approach to be very wise.
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That's a very condescending attitude. That the only reason people are getting worked up here is because we don't handle criticism well.

Most people here have seen this sort of attitude before. And you generally try to accept it as a price for interacting with people, but that isn't always easy. The fact is, even being thick skinned doesn't make you invulnerable, it doesn't mean your resistance to this kind of bullshit isn't worn down every time you see it. And sometimes it gets to a point where you can't help but react emotionally

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I am empathetic toward everyone but I get the feeling you mean sympathy. I showed sympathy toward homosexuals and by recognizing their struggle. I was critical toward amad in some cases but never critical to homosexuals.
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No I meant empathy. To try and see how Amad's words feel from the eyes of those he condemns. You seem to be having trouble in understanding people's reaction so perhaps trying to see it from a different perspective might help you out with that.

Grayman said:
Everyone should be treated with respect. I did not give him more respect than homosexuals. I called him misinformed while I sympathized with the struggle homosexuals had to go through.
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That's a personal viewpoint. One I disagree with. I believe that if you refuse to show respect then it should not be shown in return. Maybe it makes you feel better to show respect to everyone no matter how they treat you, but it doesn't work that way for me.

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I would ask you what is wrong. What am I to feel until I know all the facts?
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So if I randomly walked up to you and called your mother a whore you would ask me what's wrong? Wow, you must be the second coming of Jesus.
 
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