I dont know any women who cook these daysound: sandwich is a running gag here at home lol are we getting to the topic if only women should "cook" sandwiches?
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Yes, this does come out as random racism. And I am not Russian fyi. For me masculinity doesn't mean brutality, but rather naturally strong masculine energy, which means having a strong personality and appearing masculine without trying hard. For me a real man is not aggressive towards women, but he would never let a woman boss him around. If she tried to do it, he would ignore her or leave her.
Flip side of the coin: Would a real woman let a man boss her around, or would she ignore him/leave?
man that isn't bossed around:
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Maybe your energy would be better spent searching for a community of like-minded people. The internet has made that easier than ever.
I thought it was obvious from my post that I found the term "real man" or "real woman" to be asinine. If it wasn't, let me say it now; the terms "real man" and "real woman" are asinine. I was questioning the validity of the term in the post that I quoted in the post you quoted from me.Some Real women let men boss them around all the time. Who are you to judge the real ness of a females woman status?
Why does how someone else decides to present themself and live affect you? Is it ruining your ability to have a satisfying relationship and an exciting life? If so, you might want to reprioritize. Or at least find someone who agrees with you. Trust me, they're out there. Have you met @Flavus Aquila?
You still are not being specific in response to my question. You haven't answered the What or How?
I didn't say anything about gentlemen. And neither did you, originally.Huh?
Am I the dinosaur stereotype? I enjoy acting like a gentleman around ladies, so shoot me, if that is anti feminist.
Huh? How is it up to the man to decide whether or not a woman will let herself be bossed around?
You said that a real man won't be bossed around by a woman, or else they'll leave or ignore her. I'm asking you whether or not you think a real woman should let herself be bossed around, or should she too leave/ignore? You made a statement, and I'm asking you your opinion as to whether or not that same statement applies to "real" women. Also, wouldn't it be "considerably subjective" for a woman to decide the way that a real man acts?
The way I understand what you've said is this; real men won't be bossed around by women, and not being bossed around is a marker of a "real" man. However, you also just said, I think, that a real woman won't be bossed around either, if a real woman is healthy and confident, or whatever. What I was trying to determine, which has only gotten more and more convoluted, was whether or not you felt it was right for men to boss women around. Your distinctive marker for a real man was not to be bossed around, and that seemingly implies that you think women should accept being bossed around, because not accepting it is too masculine for women. However, you seem to now be saying that women shouldn't be bossed around either, so your original statement that a real man isn't bossed around, thus making the not-being-bossed-around a marker of masculinity, not actually a marker of masculinity, but rather a marker of a confident and well-adjusted human being. Honestly though, I'm having a hard time following your thinking as it jumps around from place to place, and doesn't seem to address the questions posed to you, but rather takes the conversation in a new direction.My personal opinion is that a healthy, confident woman would not endure things like her boyfriend/husband commanding her around all the time just to feel in control. But if it's about something like letting a man make final decisions about important decisions concerning their life together, and has a practical purpose, like buying a house or a car, I believe that doesn't take away any of woman's worth.
I meant to say that men are the ones who need to evaluate what being a real woman is, not that they will decide if the woman will be bossed around. I think that being a real woman involves several other factors besides this one.
If you were going to objectively measure a woman's attractiveness, you would obviously make a poll asking a number of heterosexual men how attractive they find her. Every one of them would give their subjective opinion, but the result based on the opinion of majority of those questioned would be objective if the number of participants was representative enough. You will not measure a woman's attractiveness by asking heterosexual women if they find her attractive. Same thing with objectively evaluating if a woman is a real woman or not, and if a man is a real man. At least I believe so, but you are entitled to disagree.
If you or any other woman want to evaluate by yourself if you're a real woman that's fine, but for me it doesn't have any objective value.
bamf;670416 Honestly though said:Sorry, I don't now why I assumed you were a woman. :/
You asked me if I thought that a real woman would be bossed around, but I think that opposite sex should always be a judge of what a real woman is, same as women should always be the judge of what a real man is. Therefore I found it very hard to answer objectively, but I still stated my personal opinion, which implies that there are different kinds of behavior that are implied by men "bossing around" to women of which some I find acceptable for a real woman and some not, like making important decisions (acceptable) and abuse (unacceptable).
I find myself and every other woman unqualified to evaluate what a real woman is, and therefore unqualified to answer this question objectively. This is the only answer I can give you. You might find it confusing, but I did my best to answer honestly.
Honestly though, I'm having a hard time following your thinking as it jumps around from place to place, and doesn't seem to address the questions posed to you, but rather takes the conversation in a new direction.