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Guy gave me 3 books on witchcraft decades ago. Told me I needed to know what I was up against. I threw them away many years later....unread........unopened. I didn't want to let the evil out. No sense clouding my mind with things that seem quite silly to me.
Believe me: I am listening. Not to you. That is at least two or three times you have told me to stop. Tell you what: I'll stop when the sun shines no more.
copied"By re-exploring the bin Laden operation, Hersh has thrust himself into the phenomenological territories that Cold War spymaster James Jesus Angleton called a “wilderness of mirrors.” In this clandestine world, truths are constructed, obliterated and bent to serve their masters. Adversaries who would deceive abound in this place, and without a reliable map, a compass, a sense of direction and maybe even a pedometer, even the most intrepid voyager (or journalist) can find himself lost. I’ll volunteer to join a search party for Hersh—somebody I’ve long admired—if only somebody can tell me precisely where he is." copied
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So I’m being likened to books on witchcraft under threat of “clouding your mind”?
I think it must already be too cloudy in there Sir.
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You just keep swigging back the old kool aid don't you stu? (are they paying you?)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/seymour-hersh-succumbs-to-disinformation.html
Seymour Hersh Succumbs To Disinformation
Paul Craig Roberts
Prison Planet.com
May 12, 2015
Seymour Hersh has published a long account of the homicide of Osama bin Laden:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden
Hersh concludes that the Obama regime’s account of the killing of bin Laden is a total fabrication except for the fact that bin Laden was killed.
I do not believe Hersh’s story for three reasons. One reason is that bin Laden was suffering from disease that no one can survive for a decade. His death was widely reported in 2001. One reason is that even Hersh’s “true” account of “what really happened” is contradicted by eye witnesses and the initial Pakistani TV interviews of eye witnesses. One reason is that Hersh’s story is too convoluted for an assassination raid, a routine event. He exposes lies within lies, indecision within decision, payoffs within payoffs, and reports such a huge number of people with advance knowledge of the raid that it cannot possibly have been kept a secret.
I could add a fourth reason–the US government’s lack of credibility. Washington lies about everything. For example: Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, Assad’s use of chemical weapons, Iranian nukes, Russian invasion of Ukraine. If, as Hersh reports, lies comprise 99% of Washington’s tale of the raid in Abbottabad, why believe that 1% of the story is true and that bin Laden was killed. It is difficult to have murder without a body. The only evidence that bin Laden was killed is the government’s claim.
In my opinion, Washington’s disinformation agencies have finally managed to deceive Seymour Hersh with a concocted “inside story” that saves Washington’s claim of having murdered bin Laden by proving that the US government is an extraordinary liar and violator of law.
Hersh’s story does prove that the US government is a liar, but it does not prove that a SEAL team murdered Osama bin Laden.
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. His latest book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West is now available.
This article was posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 5:40 am
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Oh 'mister' is it? lol
Get off your high horse man and grow up!
You've just spent months harrassing me in the vaccines thread whilst trying to get people to poison their children and you've pursued me in many other threads as well and as soon as i post an article countering yours you have a little tantrum like a toddler!
Are they paying you stu or are you just beligerently trying to misslead people for sport or do you actually believe the things you say?
I genuinly would like to hear your answer (although it doesn't mean i'll believe you)
But listen up pal......your threats of 'slapping' are a fucking joke; i've seen pictures of you and i'd knock you sideways, so don't try and act the big man with me
And one more thing...everytime i catch you posting lies to people, i'm gonna correct you because this is a public forum
So get used to it
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No what you do is repost other peoples posts to clog the forum up (you re-posted my posts in huge posts in the vaccines thread a number of times...for what?)
I also love how when you post bullshit like the article above it is ok (cos it serves the nwo agenda) but when i post information countering that it is 'specious material'
lol
get a grip man
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You probably think this song is about you.
Why do you think something I have said is directed at trying to discredit YOU? I tell stories. I use examples to drive home a point. Many don't understand.
I refuse to cloud my mind with things that simply would pollute it.
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The art of deception has been used by peoples over centuries. Deceit. Decoys. Lies. Half truths.
I do not appreciate these things being used against me when I know better.
I agree with [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] about setting the truth in its stage or arena, but not where we personally try to degrade each other. Are we any better by trying to demoralize someone or try to ruin their reputation? Good way to run someone off that doesn't play like that.
The most difficult thing about forgiveness is when you have to do it. It's easy to preach, and tough to walk in the shoes. Can't forgive someone? Try forgiving the act.
I do not appreciate these things being used against me when I know better.
I agree with [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] about setting the truth in its stage or arena, but not where we personally try to degrade each other. Are we any better by trying to demoralize someone or try to ruin their reputation? Good way to run someone off that doesn't play like that.
The most difficult thing about forgiveness is when you have to do it. It's easy to preach, and tough to walk in the shoes. Can't forgive someone? Try forgiving the act.
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I think if we all stick with 'love thy neighbour' we will be ok
The dark forces always try to pit everyone against each other because they call themselves the 'strong'
Their philosophy is that of dog eat dog
They turn white against black, muslim against christian, american against russian and so on and so on when the reality of the average person in all those groups is that they are all quietly going about their day not hurting anyone
With their dog eat dog creed of ' the strong' they are the predators preying on everyone else; they are the driving force behind the wars
''the meek shall inherit the earth''....well only if they can stop fighting and begin acting peacefully (meekly) and compassionately towards each other
Does a God fearing christian who wants to live in spirit not have more in common with a God fearing muslim who wants to live in spirit then they do with a materialist, diamond loving banker who worships the god of money, mammon?
And yet it is those worshippers of mammon that have taken over the newspapers and news sites and stations and who tell everyone to go to war all the time and to hate all muslims
We need to be very careful who we believe these days because the wolves come in sheeps clothing
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With Hillary floundering and desperately trying to claw herself away from the lies she and her husband have told their entire lives I have to say I am more positive about actual presidential material making it into the white house after the current king is given the boot.
Rand Paul, Graham, Carson. Ted Cruize is becoming more interesting. Not that I agree with everything hes about but there is no doubt he'd make a 100% better president than Obama or the like who have never breathed air from this earth.
All I have to say is that once we get a rational clear thinking president in place we need to fix our voting system so that dead people, illegal aliens, multiple times voters, riged machines.. you know all of the things that make it possible for Democrats to win are fixed for good.
The country wont be able to survive another Obama which is what they want. Collapse America so they can implement a socialist society. I think 2016 is looking good right now.
Rand Paul, Graham, Carson. Ted Cruize is becoming more interesting. Not that I agree with everything hes about but there is no doubt he'd make a 100% better president than Obama or the like who have never breathed air from this earth.
All I have to say is that once we get a rational clear thinking president in place we need to fix our voting system so that dead people, illegal aliens, multiple times voters, riged machines.. you know all of the things that make it possible for Democrats to win are fixed for good.
The country wont be able to survive another Obama which is what they want. Collapse America so they can implement a socialist society. I think 2016 is looking good right now.
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Yeah, that is the goal
What they call 'socialism' is when there is a large government that controls every aspect of everyones lives
But really socialism should be used to mean a society where the workers (ie you and me) own and control the means of production and exercise power through workers councils and peoples assemblies
But the people trying to create that centrally controlled totalitarian nightmare want to hide that idea of how a society could be run from the public so they misuse words and NEVER talk about any other kind of system except one where the people are ruled by a central government
Just to confuse things even more those conspirators are operating through corporations and have created an interlocking corporate network (interlocking because they own shares across many different corporations and sit on the boards of many corporations) which has used its money and influence to take over the political system in the US so that the government represents the interests of the corporations and not the US public
When corporate power and government power become the same thing it is called FASCISM
So you could call what the US is becoming a fascist state
But whether you call it 'socialist' or 'fascist' doesn't matter i guess because both words are being used here to mean the same thing which is that the rights and freedoms of the public are being taken away and a small group of powerful people are building a powerful government machine (with a militarised police force) with whihc they can dominate the people who they are turning into a an impoverished slave class
This is basically like the old fuedal days where you had powerful barons sitting in their castles surround ed by armourmed mercenary knights who controlled a population of serfs (workers on the land) who they taxed and kept poor and oppressed (hence all the robin hood stories)
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Probably because it was you and me who were talking?
I don’t know…stuff normal people think.
That was my point, you refuse to hear me out because you consider anything I have to say as “pollution”.
That’s about as closed-minded and sad as it gets.
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Hi Justme
I think that despite the fact that you, me, skarekrow, eventhorizon and others have disagreed on small points i think that we share a lot of common ground when we stand back from the situation
So for example i think we are all agreed that something is going very wrong in our world....is that fair to say?
I think we also all know that there are people in our countries working to undermine our societies...is that fair to say?
So if we are all agreed on that then doesn't that make us all on the same side, in the big scheme of things?
Sure we don't agree on everything but we do all agree on wanting to live in a safe, secure country where we are not being dominated by a big brother authority....is that fair to say?
So isn't it time that people in the US and UK started building bridges?
We also know that the people trying to subvert our society deliberately set different groups of people against each other to divide and rule us, so surely what we need to be doing is building community
Also we know that these people often pretend to be things they are not and as a result there are out there fake christians, fake muslims, fake jews, fake spiritual people (the new age movement is full of controlled opposition)
So we have to be careful who we trust...this requires DISCEARNMENT...ie the ability to discearn who is telling the truth and who isn't
Now we don't all agree on each point but on the big stuff we're agreed.
So, if we want to take our countries back shouldn't we all start working together?
This would require reaching out to other communities. For example the black community is being persecuted by the police at the moment but should we sit back and say: ''well it's not really my problem?''
because the reality is that it IS our problem because those same police brutalising the black community are serving the same system seeking to enslave all of us
So isn't it time to reach out to the black community and become allies with them?
Isn't it time to reach out to the gay community and the wider LGBT community and stand shoulder to shoulder with these people to build a safe community for all of us
After all weren't our countries built by all of these people?
So the plotters see all this chaos as an opportunity to takeover the country and create their 'new world order' but isn't it also an opportunity for us (the public) to start pulling together to create our own community?
Anyway....i don't think its worth focussing too much on Obama because he is jut a front man and the front men come and go but the puppetmasters behind them remain
The elections just change the front men but not the puppetmasters, so i suggest the people you should really focus on are the puppetmasters
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Isn't it time to start pulling all your countrymen together and to stop squabbling over the small stuff and start facing the bigger threat of the corporate takeover of the US? (new world order)
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I think that people like the Koch Bros. and Sheldon Addleson have successfully subverted what little democratic process still remained of our election system.
This includes the almost complete take over of Congress, The Supreme Court and the POTUS.
So yeah, I guess you could say that.
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Ok so you have a theory of a conspiracy?