Jordan Peterson

InfernoMink said:
I used to at minimum listen to this dude if the YT suggested a vid, but after his tweet about how society is pushing overweight models on men, he’s just another human full of emotional mess, to me. This dude was triggered by an overweight model. Sorry, you can’t be an intellectual I can respect, if you can’t keep your ignorant feelings to yourself. He talks about how society is trying to normalize obesity. No it’s not. What society is trying to do is prevent the chubby kids in school from being bullied because the world doesn’t see their worth.
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I saw that tweet too and thought he was emotionally charged and overreacting, but I do want to push up against what you are saying here.

As somebody who was obese my entire life until 3 years ago in which I lost all the weight by diet and exercise with no surgical intervention, I definitely think obesity is being normalized and that this is a not healthy ideology for society to get on board with.

I was bullied in school, but I don't think we should normalize obesity to prevent children being bullied. I think allowing a child to become obese is a form of neglect and child abuse that has life long health implications alongside the psychological damage it does. Parents and caregivers need to be held accountable. Why do we care if a child is underweight but are totally ok when a child is so overweight they lose their breath walking around? It's a huge issue.
 
 
Neo-Marxism is not post-modernist in any sense of the word, and is contingent with Marxist theory on the whole. Neo-Marxism is additions to Marxism, Petersons insinuation that it is "post-modern" is ridiculous. The Frankfurt school are Neo-Marxists to some extent. however some later do actually expunge their own works and repudiate Marxism later on, and turn to postmodernist theory. This doesn't make Marxism inherently "post-modern". There is a larger narrative in which a lot of Postmodernist thinkers, like Michael Foucault were inspired by Marx, and other leftist figures, however Foucault was later harshly critical of Marx and distanced himself from his earlier work which focused heavily on Marxist thematics. People like Adorno and Horkheimer were still "Marxists", in the proverbial sense they simply looked for ‘marxist’ structures’ in other forms, like jazz music. They are still Marxist but have added new revisions to the concept, and are very much against post-modernism as a concept. It must also be said that independent of the phrase ‘Postmodern Neo-Marxism’ itself Peterson's application is problematic in how he ascribes its meaning to basically the entire "Left". Therefore, I think his implication by the phrase is more problematic (that corporate HR, leftist groups, colleges / academic administration at US/CA universities are all postmodern Neo-Marxists) than by arguing about the term itself which is inherently cryptic and contradictory by nature.
 
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as if marriage and fatherhood is peak masculine easy life...well, with a bangmaid, I guess it is, fuck all that noise :rolleyes:
 
I've heard Jordan Peterson's name for years, and I've watched a handful of clips and interviews. I don't get why he's so often mentioned. Perhaps I haven't seen any of the quintessential content which has made him a household name.

My impression is that he mostly offers a psychological critique of people's individual and social neuroses arising from ideological preoccupation, and encourages people to refocus on more basic/fundamental and personal psychological needs. This might be typified by something like: don't spend all day trying to fix the world, when it's more urgent to fix your own life and relationships. It just seems like simple parental type advice.

Perhaps, if someone is more familiar with him, could you please tag me with something which exemplifies why Peterson is so talked about. So far, the little content of his I've seen just sounds like the kind of things my parents would say.
 
Matty said:
My impression is that he mostly offers a psychological critique of people's individual and social neuroses arising from ideological preoccupation, and encourages people to refocus on more basic/fundamental and personal psychological needs. This might be typified by something like: don't spend all day trying to fix the world, when it's more urgent to fix your own life and relationships. It just seems like simple parental type advice.

Perhaps, if someone is more familiar with him, could you please tag me with something which exemplifies why Peterson is so talked about. So far, the little content of his I've seen just sounds like the kind of things my parents would say.
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“If you can't even clean up your own room, who the hell are you to give advice to the world?” -J.P.
 
 
philostam said:
You'd think a person like him would have better things to do that to be on Twitter 5 hours a day. Musk is the same.
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Current conversation centrality means opportunity for speaking gigs which are lucrative. He knows exactly what he is doing, and he knows stars have finite fuel and eventually burn out.

Cheers,
Ian
 
aeon said:
Current conversation centrality means opportunity for speaking gigs which are lucrative. He knows exactly what he is doing, and he knows stars have finite fuel and eventually burn out.

Cheers,
Ian
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Disappointing. He is rich enough. Just relax and enjoy life...Anyway he's get enough from his book sales + courses and what else he offers. He has generational wealth and is debating with reply guys on twitter. Such a waste of a life.
 
philostam said:
Disappointing. He is rich enough. Just relax and enjoy life...Anyway he's get enough from his book sales + courses and what else he offers. He has generational wealth and is debating with reply guys on twitter. Such a waste of a life.
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For you or I, perhaps. Given his moral. ethical, cultural, and philosophical foundations (as much as I can know or ascertain), he is winning, per his own standards. In the game he is playing, there is no such thing as enough.

Cheers,
Ian
 
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