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So as long as it's your avenue, it's all good. The avenue of kinglear's truth! Single file everyone, no pushing.
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So as long as it's your avenue, it's all good. The avenue of kinglear's truth! Single file everyone, no pushing.
Rowan Tree
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That actually sounds like a threat. I hope it is not.
are you fucking serious?
you aren't living in the real world! you are living in some sort of idealised version of reality that exists only in your mind
The united kingdom is incredibly diverse! There are: welsh, english, scottish, cornish, irish, channel islanders, shetlanders etc all with their own views on things; there are far more cohesive groups out there
Poll: 80% of Israeli Jews believe in God
Extensive Judaism study conducted by Guttman Institute and AVI CHAI Foundation points to increase in number of religious and haredi Jews, decrease in number of traditional and secular Jews; 63% don't mix meat and milk, but 65% watch TV on Shabbat
Kobi Nahshoni|Published: 01.28.12 , 09:13
Apart from the fact that four of five Israeli Jews believe in God, the study's findings revealed that 77% are convinced that the world is guided by an "extraordinary force", 72% believe that praying can improve a person's situation, 67% are convinced that the Jews are the chosen people, and 65% think Torah and mitzvot are a divine order.
According to 34% of the respondents, a Jew who fails to observe mitzvot puts his fellow people in danger.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4181776,00.html
What’s in Netanyahu’s ‘Jewish State’ bill?
Prime minister’s legislation, up for vote this week, will seek to underline Israel’s Jewish character and highlight the country’s commitment to democracy
By Adiv Sterman 23 November 2014, 11:36 pm
A final draft of a controversial bill that would define Israel as a Jewish state is set to be presented by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for a Knesset plenum vote by the end of this week, following the cabinet’s approval of two earlier versions of the contentious legislation on Sunday.
While the cabinet did not officially endorse Netanyahu’s version of the Jewish State bill — but rather two drafts presented by coalition chairman Ze’ev Elkin (Likud), and MKs Yariv Levin (Likud) and Ayelet Shaked (Jewish Home) — the ministers agreed to back the pieces of legislation provided that the final version of the law will square with the prime minister’s requirements of the measure.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/whats-in-netanyahus-jewish-state-bill/
What's the Secret of Israel's Hi-Tech Success?
i'm not talking about my subjective truth
i'm speaking about objectively observable facts
it is an objective fact that the frankfurt school was made up of jewish intellectuals
why is this so hard to say?
if they were russian intellectuals do you think anyone would have trouble saying that?
no so why the dishonesty? seriously ask yourself
no of course not, don't be daft. I have no violent intent
i want us to avoid the mistakes of the past not blunder right back into them
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I don't even know what the 'corporate fascist left' even is, quite frankly. I just don't know by what reality-bending logic you can place the interests of corporations on the progressivist, proletarian wing of politics.
It just reminds me of all those 'let's argue that black is white' attempts by certain right-wingers to claim that Nazism was 'actually left wing', because to them it is actually a matter of importance that the political wing they identify with is 'all good, all the time'.
You seem to have fallen into this trap big time.
Personally I don't give a fuck and neither should you - it's a non-argument.
I'm a pretty left-wing, progressive guy, but I have some conservative opinions. I think, in my country, we should keep the institution of the NHS - this is a conservative position. I support the traditional family as an ideal way to raise children, and do not think that there is anything particularly 'backwards' about traditional gender roles in the household. What else? I want to preserve Parliament in my country and many of our other ancient institutions. I will be conservative and 'right-wing' about a few things, but I don't give a fuck - this is only natural that we would be conservative about some things and progressive about others.
You seem to have taken your own self-imposed labels extremely seriously indeed, such that you cannot seem to countenance the fact that Nazism was a right-wing movement. This is just bizzare tribal thinking.
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These are straw-men.
There were all kinds of ethnicities in all of those empires you mentioned and their labels were the names of actually existing polities.
'Racist to Romans' is literally the most ludicrous thing I've heard all day. You may want to learn what a Roman actually was.
because it is not proletarian
while the proles are fighting each other under identity politics the corproate socialists are building their technocratic gulag
you know for years i was insulted as a 'conspiracy theorist' for saying they wanted to microchip us and now this in the mainstream media this week:
Major UK companies preparing to microchip employees
By Ellie Zolfagharifard, Technology News Editor
10 November 2018 • 9:49pm
British companies are planning to microchip some of their staff in order to boost security and stop them accessing sensitive areas.
Biohax, a Swedish company that provides human chip implants, told the Telegraph it was in talks with a number of UK legal and financial firms to implant staff with the devices.
One prospective client, which cannot be named, is a major financial services firm with “hundreds of thousands of employees.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/11/10/major-uk-companies-preparing-microchip-employees/
but there is only one ethnicity in israel?
what about the ruling class in rome and britain? ethnically diverse or not?
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You didn't say the British people. You said the British Empire. You're quibbling, badly, because you've lost the argument.
ah so you make a distinction between the british empire and the british people as a whole?
yet many british people supported the empire yes?
so there was a british elite who were really the driving force behind the empire?
so if people speak of an oligarchic elite funding jewish academics does that mean that those people are equating that elite with ALL jewish people?
finally some people on the left WAKING THE FUCK UP!
UK Unions Voice Concern over Prospect to Implant Employees with Microchips
November 12, 2018 · General / Alternative
Trades Union Congress concerned over tech being used to control and micromanage
Britain’s biggest employer organisation and main trade union body have sounded the alarm over the prospect of British companies implanting staff with microchips to improve security.
UK firm BioTeq, which offers the implants to businesses and individuals, has already fitted 150 implants in the UK.
The tiny chips, implanted in the flesh between the thumb and forefinger, are similar to those for pets. They enable people to open their front door, access their office or start their car with a wave of their hand, and can also store medical data.
Another company, Biohax of Sweden, also provides human chip implants the size of a grain of rice. It told the Sunday Telegraph (£) that it is in discussions with several British legal and financial firms about fitting their employees with microchips, including one major company with hundreds of thousands of employees.
The CBI, which represents 190,000 UK businesses, voiced concerns about the prospect.
A CBI spokesperson said: “While technology is changing the way we work, this makes for distinctly uncomfortable reading. Firms should be concentrating on rather more immediate priorities and focusing on engaging their employees.”
The TUC is worried that staff could be coerced into being microchipped. Its general secretary Frances O’Grady said:
“We know workers are already concerned that some employers are using tech to control and micromanage, whittling away their staff’s right to privacy.
“Microchipping would give bosses even more power and control over their workers. There are obvious risks involved, and employers must not brush them aside, or pressure staff into being chipped.”
https://bendedreality.com/uk-unions...rospect-to-implant-employees-with-microchips/
UK Unions Voice Concern over Prospect to Implant Employees with Microchips
November 12, 2018 · General / Alternative
Trades Union Congress concerned over tech being used to control and micromanage
Britain’s biggest employer organisation and main trade union body have sounded the alarm over the prospect of British companies implanting staff with microchips to improve security.
UK firm BioTeq, which offers the implants to businesses and individuals, has already fitted 150 implants in the UK.
The tiny chips, implanted in the flesh between the thumb and forefinger, are similar to those for pets. They enable people to open their front door, access their office or start their car with a wave of their hand, and can also store medical data.
Another company, Biohax of Sweden, also provides human chip implants the size of a grain of rice. It told the Sunday Telegraph (£) that it is in discussions with several British legal and financial firms about fitting their employees with microchips, including one major company with hundreds of thousands of employees.
The CBI, which represents 190,000 UK businesses, voiced concerns about the prospect.
A CBI spokesperson said: “While technology is changing the way we work, this makes for distinctly uncomfortable reading. Firms should be concentrating on rather more immediate priorities and focusing on engaging their employees.”
The TUC is worried that staff could be coerced into being microchipped. Its general secretary Frances O’Grady said:
“We know workers are already concerned that some employers are using tech to control and micromanage, whittling away their staff’s right to privacy.
“Microchipping would give bosses even more power and control over their workers. There are obvious risks involved, and employers must not brush them aside, or pressure staff into being chipped.”
https://bendedreality.com/uk-unions...rospect-to-implant-employees-with-microchips/
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uhh idk why it's hard for you to say it, but it's pretty easy for me. I say a lot of things pretty easily.
and yet i am the only one here who has said it
even rowan tree couldn't say it. the best he could do was say that he wasn't saying they weren't...
which is not the same!
now can you admit that they are trying to microchip workers across the west?
lets find some common ground here dude that bridges any difference in shade that our skin might have
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But what is your fucking point!?
Rowan merely pointed out that it was pretty suspect how you emphasised the ethno-religious identity of a particular intellectual circle.
Why do we have to be extra-worried that they were Jewish? They were typically ethnic minorities in their home countries, and so it would be only natural that they would gravitate towards the left. This happens everywhere.
Is it weird that most blacks would have voted for RFK in '68? Or that there were African-American groups of intellectuals formed with the intention of furthering civil rights?
Is it weird that white South Africans now form organisations committed to Afrikaaner defense?
You could all claim these minority organisations to have 'conspiratorial' overtones, but all that is happening is the entirely natural human reflex to defend one's own interests.
So why is it only 'extra-weird' and creepy when it happens to be Jews that do this? And you go further, imputing that groups composed of Jews are necessarily Jewish interest groups even if they have practical nothing to do with ethno-religious advocacy.
can we see that lefties are concerned over workers being microchipped?
yes?
can we admit it is not some feverish 'right wing conspiracy theory'?
can we actually look at the observable objective facts and let those guide our views instead of the ideological ideas given to us second hand by other people?
yes?
can we admit it is not some feverish 'right wing conspiracy theory'?
can we actually look at the observable objective facts and let those guide our views instead of the ideological ideas given to us second hand by other people?
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People have accused me of gaslighting before which I find quite humorous.
It's just the inferno of my truth. If you can't stand the heat, gtfo of my kitchen.
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And we're back to context. You speak in tropes that are not evidenced, that when it comes to the actual texts of the Frankfurt School are patently untrue, that resonate with some of the most hideous bigotries in recent history. But I give up—really, truly, this time, as arguing with you is addictive but unhealthy in that it's always ultimately pointless. Comparing a small group of Jewish Marxists to the British Empire is not a serious position. I hope you change one day. I hope you're young and this is a phase. I worry that your nonsense if becoming popular and fear for my Jewish friends if these ideas continue to take hold of the popular imagination.
Likewise. I genuinely fear the historical ignorance betrayed by so much contemporary dialogue. It's baffling to me that we have to debate these types of claims.
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Cut the BS and get to some kind of factual evidence not encapsulated in a hard to fact check video on how the Frankfurt School is at all what you imply it is? This cherry picking of groups and defining them as fronts for nefarious secret organizations is merely an authoritarian tactic to threaten our rights of free association.
