Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370

@muir

I haven't flown a real plane. I have flown full realism combat simulators though with every single button in the cockpit being real and necessary. This involves a long checklist to start the plane up, taxi it, follow commands from control on when to take off, from what runway, in what direction. I'd have to follow the CAP flight plan on the MFD, controlling airspeed and minding fuel to manage station times and ETA at each waypoint. Get into a fight and work the radar to try and find what MIGHT be an enemy plane beyond visual range but can still kill you. Locate and fly around SAM sites... some times getting a launch and having to evade and you SEE the missile trail flying by. Then I'd be done and have to return home and get my instructions and clearance to land and actually do so with the jet in one piece, preferably. Some times slightly shot up with parts of the avionics not working. I've done flameout landings. Glided home on BINGO fuel. Emergency landings at alternate airfields.

Maybe not for real but I have some idea.

In terms of what your heart rate is doing there is no substitute

This is the main criticism of drones...that they are removed from reality...to the pilot they seem like a computer game where there are no real life implications for the pilot

To fly a commerical plane pilots have to do all the simulator work and log the real flying hours

The point being we are not talking about people who are a push over. And besides that the cabin is locked

There are just so many barriers to a successful hijack to try and make light of this

This looks to me like a clinical black ops job

That simulator sounds fun though :)
 
In terms of what your heart rate is doing there is no substitute

This is the main criticism of drones...that they are removed from reality...to the pilot they seem like a computer game where there are no real life implications for the pilot

To fly a commerical plane pilots have to do all the simulator work and log the real flying hours

The point being we are not talking about people who are a push over. And besides that the cabin is locked

There are just so many barriers to a successful hijack to try and make light of this

This looks to me like a clinical black ops job

That simulator sounds fun though :)

Well it's about as close as you can get without actually being in a plane. Tons of research and real life pilot consultation involved in making these. Practically military grade.

You really really need to study, train, read long manuals to do one of these simulators. It's fun if you think that kind of thing is fun.
 
Well it's about as close as you can get without actually being in a plane. Tons of research and real life pilot consultation involved in making these. Practically military grade.

You really really need to study, train, read long manuals to do one of these simulators. It's fun if you think that kind of thing is fun.

Sure...i'm a geek...i love that stuff :)

Perhaps you can pilot us to INFJ island when the time comes?

This idea though that the powers that be are trying to sell us that a group of saudis did some practise in flight simulators in the US and then managed to hit the two towers and the pentagon having over powered the crew and passengers armed only with box cutters whislt the military were distracted doing exercises is insane

A guided system on the other hand such as the ones in tomahawk missiles could hit a specific target
 
Sure...i'm a geek...i love that stuff :)

Perhaps you can pilot us to INFJ island when the time comes?

This idea though that the powers that be are trying to sell us that a group of saudis did some practise in flight simulators in the US and then managed to hit the two towers and the pentagon having over powered the crew and passengers armed only with box cutters whislt the military were distracted doing exercises is insane

A guided system on the other hand such as the ones in tomahawk missiles could hit a specific target

Well I agree my hypothesis is probably unlikely. Devil's advocate and all that.
 
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Well I agree my hypothesis is probably unlikely. Devil's advocate and all that.

Sure its good to consider all options

But there is a lot of info pointing in one direction. That does not make the issue conclusive but it makes it likely
 
Investigators have also examined data transmitted from the plane’s Rolls-Royce engines that showed it descended 40,000 feet in the span of a minute, according to a senior American official briefed on the investigation. But investigators do not believe the readings are accurate because the aircraft would most likely have taken longer to fall such a distance.
“A lot of stock cannot be put in the altitude data” sent from the engines, one official said. “A lot of this doesn’t make sense.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html

I saw on cnn where there is radar evidence of a drop in altitude from 40,000 to 12,000 ft after the 90* turn away from Vietnam.
 
"British Airways Flight 5390 was a scheduled passenger flight operated by British Airways between Birmingham Airport in England and Málaga, Spain. On 10 June 1990 an improperly-installed panel of the windscreen failed, blowing the plane's captain, Tim Lancaster, halfway out of the aircraft, with his body firmly pressed against the window frame. The first officer managed to perform an emergency landing in Southampton with no loss of life"

Planes drop in altitude to avoid other traffic if there's an emergency and re-pressurize the cabin if there's been decompression. If that decompression/emergency happened in the actual cockpit, radioing it in might not have been an option.

In flight 5390 they got lucky and also had a skilled crew. Replay that 100 times and I'll bet some flights don't make it.
 
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Is this the conclusion that the company has made based on their data? Or based on all the data?

The new information came from British satellite maker Inmarsat, which used a new type of analysis never before used to try and pinpoint the plane's last known location, Razak said.
"[Inmarsat] has been performing calculations on the data using type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort and they have been able to shed more light on MH370. Based on the new analysis, Inmarsat and the [British] Accidents Investigation Branch have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor and that it's last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth," Razak said.
http://abcnews.go.com/International...ne-ended-south-indian-ocean/story?id=23033246
 
http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/

The disappearance of four members of a patent semiconductor traveling on Malaysia Airlines MH370 makes the famous billionaire Jacob Rothschild at the sole owner of the important patent.
The mystery surrounding the Malaysian Airlines MH-370 is growing as each day passes with more mysterious silence shadowing the disappearance of the airline. More and more conspiracy theories are beginning to boom on the internet. One of the conspiracies one is the Freescale Semiconductor’s ARM microcontroller ‘KL-03′ which is a new improvised version of an older microcontroller KL-02. This crazy story about how Illuminati Rothschild exploited the airlines to gain full Patent Rights of an incredible KL-03 micro-chip is going haywire across the internet especially when it’s involving Jacob Rothschild as the evil master plotter.​
A US technology company which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar systems in the days before the Boeing 777 went missing.​
Freescale Semiconductor has been developing microprocessors, sensors and other technology for the past 50 years. The technology it creates is commonly referred to as embedded processors, which according to the firm are “stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions in electronic systems”.​
Why were so many Freescale employees traveling together? What were their jobs. Were they on a mission and if so what was this mission? Can these employees be the cause of the disappearance of this plane? Could the plane have been then hijacked and these people kidnapped? Did these employees hold valuable information, did they have any valuable cargo with them? Did they know company and technological secrets? With all the might of technology why cant this plane be located? Where is this plane where are these people?”​
The 20 Freescale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications and investor relations.​
“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
In Malaysia, Freescale’s modern operations facility that manufactures and tests integrated circuits (IC) is based in Petaling Jaya.​
Based on information obtained from Freescale’s website, the facility began operations in 1972 covering an eight hectare site and is specifically designed for the manufacturing and testing of microprocessors, digital signal processors and integrated radio frequency circuits.​
It also owns Freescale RF which is involved in creating solutions for Aerospace and Defence listed below.​
1. Battlefield communication
2. Avionics
3. HF Radar – Band L- and S-
4. Missile Guidance
5. Electronic Warfare
6. Identification, friend or foe (IFF)
Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group of private equity investors whose past advisers have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major.​
Carlyle’s previous heavyweight clients include the Saudi Binladin Group, the construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden.​
The fact that Freescale had so many highly qualified staff on board the Boeing 777 had already prompted wild conspiracy theories about what might have happened.​
The company says they were flying to China to improve its consumer products operations, but Freescale’s fresh links to electronic warfare technology is likely to trigger more speculation and deepen the mystery.​
Experts have been baffled how a large passenger jet seems to have flown undetected and possibly beaten military radar systems for up to six hours.​
Avoiding radar via “cloaking technology” has long been one of the objectives of the defense industry and Freescale has been active developing chips for military radar.​
On its website, the company says its radio frequency products meet the requirements for applications in “avionics, radar, communications, missile guidance, electronic warfare and identification friend or foe”.​
Last June it announced it was creating a team of specialists dedicated to producing “radio frequency power products” for the defense industry.​
And on March 3, it announced it was releasing 11 of these new gadgets for use in “high frequency, VHF and low-band UHF radar and radio communications”.​
The company did not respond to questions from Express Online, including whether any of its missing employees had been working on the defense products.​
It neither provided any responses to the latest bizarre conspiracy theory being widely published on the comments sections of newspaper websites and other internet forums.​
The comment reads: “It reads: “Have you pieced together the puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China? If not, here are your missing pieces.​
Four days after the flight MH370 disappear, semiconductor patent was approved by the U.S. patent office patent is divided in parts of 20% between five starters. One of the owners is the company itself, Freescale Semiconductor, Austin, Texas (USA), and the other four Chinese employees of the company: Peidong Wang, Zhijun Chen, Cheng and Li Ying Zhijong, all the Suzhou City. And they all passengers of Malaysia Airlines plane disappeared on March 8, according Eternity .​
It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.​
Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved.”​
However, the absurd theory does not add up.​
Although a Freescale patent does exist under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities. ( But maybe the names have been removed from the flight manifest)​
If the patent holder dies, the other owners share equally in dividends from the deceased. If four of the five patentees die, then the patentee left alive gets 100% of the patent. That remaining patent holder is the company Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? The answer is: Jacob Rothschild. British billionaire owns the company Blackstone, which in turn owns the company Freescale Semiconductors. Several speculations on the Internet now pay attention to this circumstance. The Rothschilds are a dynasty of financiers and international bankers of German-Jewish origin . The family is from the nineteenth century one of the most influential families of bankers and financiers of Europe.​
The search continues for Flight MH370 but speculation surrounding its fate grows by the day.​
- See more at: http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inh...reescale-semiconductors/#sthash.VfJbcdpI.dpuf
 
I am so behind on the news around this.

I'm just confused why they think this method of interpolation is correct. How is the likelihood of this technique any different than the others they have tried before?
 
I am so behind on the news around this.

I'm just confused why they think this method of interpolation is correct. How is the likelihood of this technique any different than the others they have tried before?

They are obliviously making the whole "Doppler" analysis up. It is way more likely that the richest people in the world hijacked the plane to make oodles of money and control alien technology. I mean without knowing what really happened what other conclusion can we believe?
 
Actually heard Malaysian Airlines received a lot of grief over their method of telling the families that their loves ones were lost and presumed dead - via text message. They argue it was the best method of contacting everyone at a time, other countries and organizations criticize their handling of this disaster as one of the worst they've seen.

How did that go, exactly?

*Bzzzz* *vibrate* *chime noise* Hey! I have a new text!
"dear sir or maam, we regret to infrm u that ur mom is dead"
 
I am so behind on the news around this.

I'm just confused why they think this method of interpolation is correct. How is the likelihood of this technique any different than the others they have tried before?

Well it's like using radar in a new way.

With radar they may use travel time in some cases to get the location of something. If the radar is pulsed, that doesn't necessarily tell you the travel direction of the object unless you can follow it in real time. It only gives you snapshots.

But, instead of using something like travel time of the wave, they can look at the compression of the wave. If a wave emitter is travelling towards you, waves get compressed. If the emitter is travelling away, they get stretched. This is why the pitch of sirens seems to change as the vehicle drives by you at speed.

If they can examine the wavelength at the receiver, they may be able to tell from that which direction the object had moved. This is a bit novel but there's a first time for everything, and really it is no more strange than using radar, and is based on principles that are just as sound.

The doppler effect isn't made up. It's well known and understood.
 
I also find it ironic that people decry that by now they should have the technology to locate a plane, but when they come up with something that might be legitimate to locate a plane, people complain that it might not be true.

Do you want them to be able to find it or not? Pick one.
 
I also find it ironic that people decry that by now they should have the technology to locate a plane, but when they come up with something that might be legitimate to locate a plane, people complain that it might not be true.

Do you want them to be able to find it or not? Pick one.

This is a good point. I guess my question is how come they are so sure this method has given the correct location? Correct enough to come to the conclusion that they have? Isn't it just as 'confident' as the other methods that they used the previous week, and yet refused to announce a conclusion of the fate of the plane?

I feel bad for the families because they carried hope for so long because they left open the possibility of the plane landing, but then all of a sudden it's like - "nope. it's here, they're all dead" (and as [MENTION=2890]Lerxst[/MENTION] via text!)

Side note: As I type this, the radio just said "the best lead yet" satellite images of 400km^2 area with items floating in it, which may be debris from the plane.


Speaking of conspiracy theories: Last night Nancy Grade (*shudder*) was talking about "The Truth" of the flight, and how it's clear that we've not had all the information. She was criticizing the Malaysian investigation team for not being competent enough, and it's just ridiculous. I know I've been critical of them, but it is a difficult situation, and one they were not likely prepared to handle.
 
I also find it ironic that people decry that by now they should have the technology to locate a plane, but when they come up with something that might be legitimate to locate a plane, people complain that it might not be true.

Do you want them to be able to find it or not? Pick one.

On a side note, it's almost refreshing to realize that humans don't yet have all the technology we like to think we do. The southern Indian Ocean is a very, cold, desolate body of water and the few islands there are just barren, wind-swept pieces of rock.
 
...The southern Indian Ocean is a very, cold, desolate body of water and the few islands there are just barren, wind-swept pieces of rock. .
The perfect place to have a secret base for our extraterrestrial overlords
 
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