Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370
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Well instead of using radar to track what they think may have been the plane and guess where it went - keep in mind that radar doesn't tell you what something is or what it will do next - they could use data that was known to come from the plane, the pings it sent to the Inmarsat satellite every hour.
From this fairly constant and consistent set of data that is known about the plane, they could use a mathematical system that examines the doppler effect to locate it. It would be a more conclusive analysis.
It'd be like playing Battleship - backwards. Instead of trying to hit the battle ship to find it, the battleship is hitting the satellite, giving you a mathematical idea of where it is going to end up when it stops.
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Thanks for the explanation! Their certainty about it makes more sense now! Thanks for the awesome explanations, [MENTION=6917]sprinkles[/MENTION] - you make things much easier to understand!
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Can you imagine if this patent had anything to do with the new software they used to find the plane! That'd be crazy!
But I suppose it's more of a new technique they used anyways!
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Yeah. The unfortunate part is this still doesn't help find the plane itself if it's now in pieces...
Well the technique isn't really new. It's just being used in a new way on a system that wasn't originally intended to include it.
Doppler is used in a lot of devices to calculate speed and direction. Those radar guns that cops use to catch people speeding are based on the same principle. It's just that this form of satellite communication wasn't intended to do this, but they can still apply the analysis to recorded data and make it work.
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Also this new technique is better because not only were they looking at this plane when it went missing, they also looked at the signal behaviors of this plane from a while before it went missing and analyzed it compared to the signals of other similar planes as well, so they could have a good understanding of how the movement of the plane can effect the signal.
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Its like i said earlier in the thread...THEY KNOW WHERE THE PLANE IS
This company sat on the information for 10 days before coming out with the information
So for me i the following possibilities are seeming likely:
1. That the aircraft was hijaked and then later dumped in the sea or debris was dumped in the sea to look like a crash
2. That the plane was hijaked and then taken to diego garcia (it could be taken there and then dumped in the sea or moved elsewhere)
3. The plane was hijaked and flown somewhere else (the wreckage has still not been found)...see clip below to hear a retired air force generals opinion on that theory
Possible motives include the rothschilds benefitting from the semi-conductor patent and also that the hijaked plane might now be used in a false flag attack somewhere else to justify a war by Israel or the US
Is Israel planning another 911 with the aircraft? http://www.bollyn.com/are-the-israelis-planning-another-9-11-using-the-missing-777/
Is the dissapearance being whitewashed? http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/25/flight-mh370-found-not-quite-now-the-real-whitewash-begins/
Is the dissapearnace a CIA hoax? http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/25/355959/the-cia-hoax-flight-370-revealed/
[video=youtube;qkIscCG1yXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkIscCG1yXc[/video]
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I find it highly unlikely that you do not consider the possibility of a non nefarious catastrophic event as being "likely".
Once again the death of innocents is merely an opportunity for you to stand on your soapbox and wail.
(for the sake of @Nixie I corrected your spelling of "hijacked" and capitalized Diego Garcia)
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Shall i see if i can arrange for you to have a badge with 'grammer police' written on it that you can wear with pride?
If you are accusing me of standing on a soap box then you must accuse all the people whose words i have provided in this thread who also find the whole affair very strange for example the retired airforce general above...is he just 'wailing' as well?
Tell me Stu how many times have you heard it spoken about in the mainstream media about who was on that flight? How many times have freescale semiconductors been mentioned on the mainstream media in the US?
because here in the UK the mainstream media have spent many hours reporting this story but have NEVER mentioned the freescale semi-conductor people
What they do is they have a news caster in the studio telling us some new information about some debris being spotted in the ocean and they talk about the families of the dissapeared being angry and upset (without saying why they are angry...ie because they suspect their families have been kidnapped and that governments may know about it) and then they hand over to a reporter in australia who repeats the same bit of news but phrased differently giving the impression that we are being given 'news' when really we are being given hot air and no substance
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You know far more about the usurper demiurge and his twisted plot which has enslaved humanity then you do of managing a multi national tech production corporation or the engineering of commercial airliners
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Its the generalists that know a little about a lot that can see the overview whilst specialists that know a lot about a little only see in their little corner
But getting off me....what about all the other people i have referenced eg the retired airforce general? Do they know nothing about these matters?
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Good read. It almost makes you think that there could be something to it. Although, I do find it interesting that this article bolds parts supporting their conspiracy theory, e.g.:
"The disappearance of four members of a patent semiconductor traveling on Malaysia Airlines MH370 makes the famous billionaire Jacob Rothschild at the sole owner of the important patent."
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“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
Yet they failed to draw attention to one very important piece of information:
"However, the absurd theory does not add up.
Although a Freescale patent does exist under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities. ( But maybe the names have been removed from the flight manifest)."
So, let's say that their names were removed from the flight manifest. Anything is possible. Now, one is left to wonder where the family members are to speak out about this? Or do they have no one that cares for them? Highly unlikely.
I am sure they are watching this along with the rest of the world. Don't you think that a relation would step forward, confirming whether these individuals were or were not on that flight? Or were they paid off or possibly even killed off by Jacob Rothschild too? From what I am reading, I am betting he killed them all. Pure evil that man is.
I obviously don't support this theory, but I would like to know your thoughts on what I have just mentioned.
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Good read. It almost makes you think that there could be something to it. Although, I do find it interesting that this article bolds parts supporting their conspiracy theory, e.g.:
"The disappearance of four members of a patent semiconductor traveling on Malaysia Airlines MH370 makes the famous billionaire Jacob Rothschild at the sole owner of the important patent."
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“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
Yet they failed to draw attention to one very important piece of information:
"However, the absurd theory does not add up.
Although a Freescale patent does exist under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities. ( But maybe the names have been removed from the flight manifest)."
So, let's say that their names were removed from the flight manifest. Anything is possible. Now, one is left to wonder where the family members are to speak out about this? Or do they have no one that cares for them? Highly unlikely.
I am sure they are watching this along with the rest of the world. Don't you think that a relation would step forward, confirming whether these individuals were or were not on that flight? Or were they paid off or possibly even killed off by Jacob Rothschild too? From what I am reading, I am betting he killed them all. Pure evil that man is.
I obviously don't support this theory, but I would like to know your thoughts on what I have just mentioned.
Absolutely i thought all the same things you did
But think about it this way....if YOU were the relative of a freescale employee that had been on the flight how would you get your story to the world?
What platform would you use if you had found out that your relatives name had been strick off the flight manifest to try to alert the world to that?
If the corporate media is controlled by the rothschilds and their network and they don't want the world talking about who was on the flight then how are you going to get that information to the world?
Also whilst the search is still on would you be more focussed at the moment with the finding of your family member than anything else?
Lets face it the only people who give the inside scoop on a lot of these stories is the alternative media and although their viewership is growing they still do not yet have the same size of captive audience that the mainstream media do
This means that at the moment, in the battle for hearts and minds if you like, the corporate powers have a much larger platform for preaching their version of reality than the non corporate forces
The corporate manistream media at the moment seem to be spinning the story a certain way and do not deal with who was on the flight (which you'd think would be information that is in the public interest for them to know)
So the corporate conspiracy theory seems to be as follows:
One or both pilots have hijaked the plane and have turned it round on its flight to crash it into the ocean for some as yet undisclosed reason. Another version i have heard is that the plane decompressed and the auto pilot turned the plane around and crashed it into the sea (but that doesn't explain why the ACAARS and Transponders were shut off or why the plane dropped below radar)
So here's another thing to bare in mind...the imarsat company that are now saying they have traced the plane sat on their information for 10 days before telling the malaysian government; this is a problem because the transponders beacon battery only lasts for 20 days
A further factor to remember is...and this is very important....that the boeing aircraft had within it the means of being piloted by people off the plane in the event of a hijack; please see the clip from the following link i posted above:
We also know that the 777/200 is a “fly by wire” aircraft with controls in place that allow the CIA to remotely pilot the plan “in case of emergency.” We were able to verify the design and implementation of this system through Boeing, Raytheon and commercial pilots.
“BAD NEWS”
The descriptions today in the New York Times and other publications are purposefully inaccurate and contradictory. Their explanations of how commercial aircraft communicate and are tracked are fanciful at best, at worst “criminal.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/25/355959/the-cia-hoax-flight-370-revealed/
Please bare in mind that the New York Times is controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations group which was created by the banking families such as the Rockefellers
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I began listening to Alex Jones for a while before I knew anything about him. Back then there was some stuff going on that seemed a little strange. I would mention it here but wont for fear that it will be taken and run with thus taking the point of this post off target.
I stopped watching Alex Jones the day he invited that British guy Pirece (piers morgan, thanks crazybeautiful ) something...an outspoken gun laws advocate onto his show. Now I dont like Pierce or didnt, turns out hes been booted from the news (good riddance) but this day Alex was sitting there with paper work looking like he was about to have a debate with Pierce. Then out of the blue, hes says a few words and then just starts going off. I mean yelling and screaming about how gun owners are going to start going 1776 on people that try to take their guns away. I couldnt help but think Alex is the reason people dont want other people to have guns.
Now, I am a gun rights advocate. The second amendment isnt up for debate. Dont care if you agree with me or not. Regardless Alex is a perfect example of someone who has peoples ear about something but shouldnt be talking about anything. He doesnt convince the other side of the argument and he doesnt do his side of the argument ANY favors.
You can speculate all day about why something happened but dont pass it out as, "This is probably what happened" by connecting dots that arent even on the same playing field.
Was what happened to the plane a cover up? Sure its a possibility. Was the plane taken by Aliens, everyone on board probed and then the Aliens brought it back and dumped it in the ocean? Sure its a possiblity. Everything is a possibility unless you can prove exactly what happened. Take the facts related to the case and dont go beyond the facts. We may never get all the facts but if true, oh well. We need to change the world so that we do. But we all know that will never happen.
I stopped watching Alex Jones the day he invited that British guy Pirece (piers morgan, thanks crazybeautiful
) something...an outspoken gun laws advocate onto his show. Now I dont like Pierce or didnt, turns out hes been booted from the news (good riddance) but this day Alex was sitting there with paper work looking like he was about to have a debate with Pierce. Then out of the blue, hes says a few words and then just starts going off. I mean yelling and screaming about how gun owners are going to start going 1776 on people that try to take their guns away. I couldnt help but think Alex is the reason people dont want other people to have guns. Now, I am a gun rights advocate. The second amendment isnt up for debate. Dont care if you agree with me or not. Regardless Alex is a perfect example of someone who has peoples ear about something but shouldnt be talking about anything. He doesnt convince the other side of the argument and he doesnt do his side of the argument ANY favors.
You can speculate all day about why something happened but dont pass it out as, "This is probably what happened" by connecting dots that arent even on the same playing field.
Was what happened to the plane a cover up? Sure its a possibility. Was the plane taken by Aliens, everyone on board probed and then the Aliens brought it back and dumped it in the ocean? Sure its a possiblity. Everything is a possibility unless you can prove exactly what happened. Take the facts related to the case and dont go beyond the facts. We may never get all the facts but if true, oh well. We need to change the world so that we do. But we all know that will never happen.
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Lunatic conspiracies aside, if this flight's fate is truly unknown and such a mystery to all then the state of advanced surveillance is not what it has been made out to be or been believed by the public.
In the weeks before this story was news I was reading about GCHQs use of phone hacking and a variety of things they could do with any mobile phone, tracking locations, turning it on to overhear conversations, having it record and report all those sorts of things, now if this was the case I doubt it was tech which is exclusive to the British (but maybe it is) and I also dont believe that no one on that flight had a mobile phone and that if they did then their phones were not hacked by some casual sweeping or data mining/web crawler style technology.
Although maybe that's all bogus, I tend to believe that most of the greater political myths which have currency in the world, whether they are about shady conspirators behind the current Wizard of Oz style, or simply about the power of existing international, national, local or regional authorities are wishful and optimistic exaggerations. There's way more disorder than order.
In the weeks before this story was news I was reading about GCHQs use of phone hacking and a variety of things they could do with any mobile phone, tracking locations, turning it on to overhear conversations, having it record and report all those sorts of things, now if this was the case I doubt it was tech which is exclusive to the British (but maybe it is) and I also dont believe that no one on that flight had a mobile phone and that if they did then their phones were not hacked by some casual sweeping or data mining/web crawler style technology.
Although maybe that's all bogus, I tend to believe that most of the greater political myths which have currency in the world, whether they are about shady conspirators behind the current Wizard of Oz style, or simply about the power of existing international, national, local or regional authorities are wishful and optimistic exaggerations. There's way more disorder than order.
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Wouldnt it be fair to say that any mobile phone submerged in salt water along with sinking in salt water would make them difficult to track? Assuming the plane was in the water before anyone knew what was going on of course.
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I'm not talking about now, or even when the plane ditched in the ocean, if it did, but before hand.
Even the flights involved in 9/11 people were able to get the word out that something was badly wrong and that's just the human action of passengers. Not even tracking of the sort which was being reported as pretty typical in the weeks before this incident.