the climate change scam

I'm wondering why you are in support of Brexit... why you think it's a legitimate outcome, &c. despite all you have said about 'perception management', propaganda and thought control, &c.

John French called this the 'maximalist problem': if you claim that individuals are so influence packed and socially conditioned to basically not be able to think for themselves, then how is it possible for them to keep doing demonstrably atypical things?

I wonder if you think any referenda with progressive (or just plain leftist) outcomes are legitimate, therefore.

You seem to make this odd exception for Brexit... 'everything is controlled by the elites, EXCEPT THAT... because I like that.'
 
Puzzlenuzzle said:
Sekret:smile:
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well if you aren't from britain then it's not really any of your business is it?

sit back, relax, do the 'fuck it' meditation and let the british people decide their own fate

and that was the beauty of the referendum....for once the people got to decide something for themselves
 
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I'm wondering why you are in support of Brexit... why you think it's a legitimate outcome, &c. despite all you have said about 'perception management', propaganda and thought control, &c.

John French called this the 'maximalist problem': if you claim that individuals are so influence packed and socially conditioned to basically not be able to think for themselves, then how is it possible for them to keep doing demonstrably atypical things?

I wonder if you think any referenda with progressive (or just plain leftist) outcomes are legitimate, therefore.

You seem to make this odd exception for Brexit... 'everything is controlled by the elites, EXCEPT THAT... because I like that.'
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if the elites wanted brexit we wouldn't be sitting here two years later watching the politicians try and wangle another extension

Lexit the Movie (The left case for Brexit )

 
kinglear said:
well if you aren't from britain then it's not really any of your business is it?

sit back, relax, do the 'fuck it' meditation and let the british people decide their own fate

and that was the beauty of the referendum....for once the people got to decide something for themselves
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Not being a Brit doesn't mean I cannot feel kinship towards my fellow human.:m032:
 
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kinglear said:
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Mr. Lear,
I actually have heard that meditation before and think it’s great!

Now let’s talk like normal people, can we?
I have an aversion to people being patronizing or assuming they know me in some way other than the posts that exist on this forum.
Or assuming my poor ego is too shallow and obscured from my sight that I have no real understanding of myself.
I assure you, whatever you are thinking regarding me is incorrect...good or bad...I am neither, I am not this body or mind...you don’t think I’ve dissolved my ego before?
There are a lot of really nice people here who are being turned off to what you are trying to get across in such a passionate way.
You dismiss anything that people say that is contrary to what seem to be fully formed set beliefs in things being a certain way.
The proof you offer is not very convincing that’s the thing.
Is it chemtrails?
Or HAARP?
Or AARP?
Or the global elites?
The lizard men?
The greys?
Is the Earth hollow?
Just how deep does this whole scandal lie?
I’m poking fun and not trying to mock what you say...but if you are going to convince people of something you cannot just say - because I know so from my reading and watching things online.
I have always had paranormal experiences...I wouldn’t, and don't expect people to believe me, especially those who have no interest or experience of their own.
I am not dismissive of ANY possibility in actuality, including what you are putting up on this thread...including that I hallucinated everything (though with witnesses it’s kind of a stretch), some kind of natural phenomena, a lucid dream (still with the witnesses), Psi, etc. etc.
If someone said - “Prove it is true.”
I cannot.
What you are saying is really not provable...at least not with what you are putting on the screen...people are not going to watch a 2 hour, or sometimes even a 2 minute video unless you can get them to empathize with your cause.
You cannot just come at people with wild accusations about the global elites and Zionists and shit and expect them to respond with - “Oh wow, I didn’t know, please tell me more about this!”
Your views are very far outside of what most people believe themselves, by being immediately dismissive of what people say, you immediately get folded arms and people put up wall number 1.
Then by taking a patronizing tone - as if you know better - and ask yourself honestly - do you, or do you just think you do?
That’s wall number 2.
Most people leave at that point and you are talking to yourself.
Any contrary proof gets ignored and dismissed as a secret conspiracy, yet you want people to read and watch your own proof you present with an open mind on the subject - there is zero give and take.
That is why you are running into the opposition you are - can you see it more clearly now?
Take care.
 
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88chaz88 said:
Yes it is, they just said they live in Britain.
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they didn't say they were permanantly living in britain

they could be there studying

in which case its not really their concern

the people who voted are the people for whom britain is their HOME

If you are from somewhere else and britain goes to shit you can just move back to that other country but for british people britain IS THEIR HOME. there is nowhere else to go
 
Puzzlenuzzle said:
Not being a Brit doesn't mean I cannot feel kinship towards my fellow human.:m032:
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so how does supporting an elite agenda to enslave all humans under a technocracy before reducing population numbers through eugenics count as 'kinship towards your fellow humans?'

explain this to me...
 
Skarekrow said:
Mr. Lear,
I actually have heard that meditation before and think it’s great!

Now let’s talk like normal people, can we?
I have an aversion to people being patronizing or assuming they know me in some way other than the posts that exist on this forum.
Or assuming my poor ego is too shallow and obscured from my sight that I have no real understanding of myself.
I assure you, whatever you are thinking regarding me is incorrect...good or bad...I am neither, I am not this body or mind...you don’t think I’ve dissolved my ego before?
There are a lot of really nice people here who are being turned off to what you are trying to get across in such a passionate way.
You dismiss anything that people say that is contrary to what seem to be fully formed set beliefs in things being a certain way.
The proof you offer is not very convincing that’s the thing.
Is it chemtrails?
Or HAARP?
Or AARP?
Or the global elites?
The lizard men?
The greys?
Is the Earth hollow?
Just how deep does this whole scandal lie?
I’m poking fun and not trying to mock what you say...but if you are going to convince people of something you cannot just say - because I know so from my reading and watching things online.
I have always had paranormal experiences...I wouldn’t, and don't expect people to believe me, especially those who have no interest or experience of their own.
I am not dismissive of ANY possibility in actuality, including what you are putting up on this thread...including that I hallucinated everything (though with witnesses it’s kind of a stretch), some kind of natural phenomena, a lucid dream (still with the witnesses), Psi, etc. etc.
If someone said - “Prove it is true.”
I cannot.
What you are saying is really not provable...at least not with what you are putting on the screen...people are not going to watch a 2 hour, or sometimes even a 2 minute video unless you can get them to empathize with your cause.
You cannot just come at people with wild accusations about the global elites and Zionists and shit and expect them to respond with - “Oh wow, I didn’t know, please tell me more about this!”
Your views are very far outside of what most people believe themselves, by being immediately dismissive of what people say, you immediately get folded arms and people put up wall number 1.
Then by taking a patronizing tone - as if you know better - and ask yourself honestly - do you, or do you just think you do?
That’s wall number 2.
Most people leave at that point and you are talking to yourself.
Any contrary proof gets ignored and dismissed as a secret conspiracy, yet you want people to read and watch your own proof you present with an open mind on the subject - there is zero give and take.
That is why you are running into the opposition you are - can you see it more clearly now?
Take care.
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you are assuming that peoples unwillingness to consider a viewpoint outside of what they have seen on their television is my fault

you are wrong

its not my job to make them more open minded. only they can do that

all i can do is share information
 
kinglear said:
you are assuming that peoples unwillingness to consider a viewpoint outside of what they have seen on their television is my fault

you are wrong

its not my job to make them more open minded. only they can do that

all i can do is share information
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The way you share it is turning people off though so...whatever don’t listen to a word then....why begin now?
 
Skarekrow said:
The way you share it is turning people off though so...whatever don’t listen to a word then....why begin now?
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why don't you stop telling everyone else how they feel about it and just let them make up their own mind about the information?

stop constantly trying to poison the well by attacking me and how i am presenting the information

set out your own stall, put out your own information and let it speak for itself

let people be guided by information and not lies and narratives woven by people who can't rely on information
 
kinglear said:
why don't you stop telling everyone else how they feel about it and just let them make up their own mind about the information?

stop constantly trying to poison the well by attacking me and how i am presenting the information

set out your own stall, put out your own information and let it speak for itself

let people be guided by information and not lies and narratives woven by people who can't rely on information
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I speak for myself first of all...you can stick that notion where you found it.
Hmmm...everyone who has tried post truthful information is dismissed, so why should I waste my time and energy posting information to counter your own?
You simply cannot stand anyone who has a belief that varies slightly from your own it seems (OMG is this a personal attack - no).
Poison the well?
You are doing just fine on your own.
There is no give and take...just shove shove shove.
No thanks.
 
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Skarekrow said:
I speak for myself first of all...you can stick that notion where you found it.
Hmmm...everyone who has tried post truthful information is dismissed, so why should I waste my time and energy posting information to counter your own?
You simply cannot stand anyone who has a belief that varies slightly from your own it seems (OMG is this a personal attack - no).
Poison the well?
You are doing just fine on your own.
There is no give and take...just shove shove shove.
No thanks.
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you are literally just throwing more hostility and no information

whats interesting to watch is how you attack while pretending that you are not attacking...
 
kinglear said:
you are literally just throwing more hostility and no information

whats interesting to watch is how you attack while pretending that you are not attacking...
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No...not attacking, being critical...it is interesting though isn’t it.
You take anything that people (or even just myself, but I do see how you respond to others, it isn’t a private forum) post as contrary to your own take as a personal attack.
My comment yesterday was totally just to gauge your reaction, not to be mean...you can’t handle a normal conversation or give and take discussion.
Goodbye.
 
Skarekrow said:
No...not attacking, being critical...it is interesting though isn’t it.
You take anything that people (or even just myself, but I do see how you respond to others, it isn’t a private forum) post as contrary to your own take as a personal attack.
My comment yesterday was totally just to gauge your reaction, not to be mean...you can’t handle a normal conversation or give and take discussion.
Goodbye.
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that is still an attack because you are still trying to make me look bad instead of discussing the information that i'm presenting. You consistently attack the posters character instead of debating with them on the information

you are trying to imply i can't 'handle a normal conversation' thereby implying that i'm at fault when it was actually you being repeatedly hostile across a number of threads

that's gaslighting dude
 
kinglear said:
that is still an attack because you are still trying to make me look bad instead of discussing the information that i'm presenting. You consistently attack the posters character instead of debating with them on the information

you are trying to imply i can't 'handle a normal conversation' thereby implying that i'm at fault when it was actually you being repeatedly hostile across a number of threads

that's gaslighting dude
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You get your terminology really mixed up and it’s pretty funny sometimes.
I’m manipulating you (or others) into questioning your own sanity and positions?
Stupid, really.
All this keeps flying over your head...not sure why I bother.
You just have to read the thread to see how you dismiss every single person who presents a position that is not your own.
You dismiss their presented evidence but then get upset that people don’t take your own “evidence” seriously.
That is why you are irritating and no...you cannot...again...no give and take.
You don’t take anyone’s presented evidence seriously but expect that in return because of some presumed knowledge that you have gained over your many decades of uber deep study.
Go shove off.
 
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Skarekrow said:
You get your terminology really mixed up and it’s pretty funny sometimes.
I’m manipulating you (or others) into questioning your own sanity and positions?
Stupid, really.
All this keeps flying over your head...not sure why I bother.
You just have to read the thread to see how you dismiss every single person who presents a position that is not your own.
You dismiss their presented evidence but then get upset that people don’t take your own “evidence” seriously.
That is why you are irritating and no...you cannot...again...no give and take.
You don’t take anyone’s presented evidence seriously but expect that in return because of some presumed knowledge that you have gained over your many decades of uber deep study.
Go shove off.
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what evidence has been presented?

you certainly present none

all you do is launch petulent and personal attacks. even when this is pointed out to you you continue.
 
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