the climate change scam

kinglear said:
what evidence has been presented?

you certainly present none

all you do is launch petulent and personal attacks. even when this is pointed out to you you continue.
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I said - You ignore the evidence presented.
I didn’t have to present it because others did and you of course ignored it.
A prime example from earlier in the thread - https://www.infjs.com/threads/the-climate-change-scam.35800/page-3#post-1117511

You really think I’m attacking you...?
I’m attacking the idiocy of climate change being a scam - there is plenty of evidence - you just ignore it.
So yes, that makes me focus on you - as the denier not only of the facts, but you completely disregard them and don’t even read them.
Don’t try and turn it back around on me - as if I have to prove shit.
You have the burden of proof.
You have the burden of proof.
NOT ME.

I could easily spam this thread (as well as the others you cooked up) with study after study going against your viewpoint.
My point it - you don’t care - you won’t read them and won’t even consider the information in them because you have a cemented mind.
So why should I waste my time as many others here have done?
You can keep saying I don’t have proof but I can work the Google man...it ain’t hard.

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.
 
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Skarekrow said:
I said - You ignore the evidence presented.
I didn’t have to present it because others did and you of course ignored it.
A prime example from earlier in the thread - https://www.infjs.com/threads/the-climate-change-scam.35800/page-3#post-1117511

You really think I’m attacking you...?
I’m attacking the idiocy of climate change being a scam - there is plenty of evidence - you just ignore it.
So yes, that makes me focus on you - as the denier not only of the facts, but you completely disregard them and don’t even read them.
Don’t try and turn it back around on me - as if I have to prove shit.
You have the burden of proof.
You have the burden of proof.
NOT ME.

I could easily spam this thread with study after study going against your viewpoint.
My point it - you don’t care - you won’t read them and won’t even consider the information in them because you have a cemented mind.
So why should I waste my time as many others here have done?
You can keep saying I don’t have proof but I can work the Google man...it ain’t hard.

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.
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first of all your claim that i have ignored lots of evidence is clearly wrong then because the only 'evidence' you have managed to produce by raking through the thread was a post that contained some studies that were discussing the claimed 'consensus' among some scientists but that i no way overturns my claim that the argument that manmade carbon dioxide is causing catastrophic climate change is a scam created by ideologues with an agenda of global control

also i did not ignore that posters point as i presented evidence that challenges the claim made by the corporate socialists and the scientists that they fund (bribe) with billions of dollars which is the claim that all the worlds climate scientists are in consensus as they are not

to hear other perspectives however you WILL have to go beyond the corporate media which is owned and controlled by the corporate socialists

also you mention google but i wouldn't recommend using them as not only do they censor people who are not ideologically in alignment with the corporate socialists and not only do they record your every search but they are themselves created out of the pentagon/darpa deep state nexus and those guys are controlled by the corporate socialists
 
kinglear said:
first of all your claim that i have ignored lots of evidence is clearly wrong then because the only 'evidence' you have managed to produce by raking through the thread was a post that contained some studies that were discussing the claimed 'consensus' among some scientists but that i no way overturns my claim that the argument that manmade carbon dioxide is causing catastrophic climate change is a scam created by ideologues with an agenda of global control

also i did not ignore that posters point as i presented evidence that challenges the claim made by the corporate socialists and the scientists that they fund (bribe) with billions of dollars which is the claim that all the worlds climate scientists are in consensus as they are not

to hear other perspectives however you WILL have to go beyond the corporate media which is owned and controlled by the corporate socialists

also you mention google but i wouldn't recommend using them as not only do they censor people who are not ideologically in alignment with the corporate socialists and not only do they record your every search but they are themselves created out of the pentagon/darpa deep state nexus
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Okay, you want some studies?
 
kinglear said:
no i want you to test your pre-held notions
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I see...I offer to post proof and you cut it off beforehand.
I test my mind daily - what I cannot see is any flexibility whatsoever in your own.
So if you aren’t going to take what I post seriously, don’t waste my time.
 
Skarekrow said:
I see...I offer to post proof and you cut it off beforehand.
I test my mind daily - what I cannot see is any flexibility whatsoever in your own.
So if you aren’t going to take what I post seriously, don’t waste my time.
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no you are the one clinging to orthodoxy

i am the one who tested the orthodoxy and found it wanting

its easy to find studies funded by the corporate socialists to fiddle data or cherry pick the data to try and present a certain viewpoint

but as the saying goes 'a lie travels three times around the world before the truth has got its boots on'

so what i'm saying is take one of your studies and then see if you can find that counter argument to it because you won't have heard that counter study in the mainstream media and for goodness sake don't use google as their searches are all heavily skewed

try duck duck go
 
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


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kinglear said:
its easy to find studies funded by the corporate socialists to fiddle data or cherry pick the data to try and present a certain viewpoint
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See, you don’t even care try to look at it objectively and you accuse me of doing just that.
Fuck off with your self.
 
ah 'nasa' huh?

well nasa also said back in the 1960's that climate change has been caused by covert weather modification programmes:

“Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19680002906.pdf

1966 NASA Document Reveals Future Goal of Engineered Climate Modification
By Editor June 26, 2017

Two Primary Documents Featured in this Story
“Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”

This set of documents from 1966 reveals a network of government agencies in perpetual and secret collaboration and the military to Modify the Global climate. Created by the elitist National Academy of Sciences – decades of an inter-agency culture of secrecy explains why the issue of covert aerosol Geoengineering (chemtrails) is a taboo topic to be degraded to the status of “conspiracy theory” by a matrix of complicit bureaucrats at every opportunity. This is why the FAA, NOAA, NASA and your local TV “meteorologist” refuse to employ scientific observation when asked to comment on an unusual sky filled with bizarre aircraft spraying.

“The gradually accumulating evidence of positive results from efforts at weather modification led the Committee on Atmospheric Sciences of the National Academy of Sciences, in November 1963, to appoint a Panel on Weather and Climate Modification “to undertake a deliberate and thoughtful review of the present status and activities in this field and of its potential and limitations for the future.” – Page 6.

“The Evolution of a Weather Modification R&D program Into a Military Weapons System”

milton-leitenberg-mug-sm.jpg
This Federation of American Scientists document is a 1986 Critique of the 1966 NASA initiative where the author (Leitenburg?) characterizes NASA’s Weather Mod Program as hijacked into a military weapons system. This document is one of several found in: Studies of Military R&D and Weapons Development by Milton Leitenberg, Senior Research Scholar – Center for International and Security Studies, University of Maryland, College Park. Leitenburg is author of several books. (Amazon Books)
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/st...-future-goal-engineered-climate-modification/
 
kinglear said:
ah 'nasa' huh?

well nasa also said back in the 1960's that climate change has been caused by covert weather modification programmes:

“Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19680002906.pdf

1966 NASA Document Reveals Future Goal of Engineered Climate Modification
By Editor June 26, 2017

Two Primary Documents Featured in this Story
“Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”

This set of documents from 1966 reveals a network of government agencies in perpetual and secret collaboration and the military to Modify the Global climate. Created by the elitist National Academy of Sciences – decades of an inter-agency culture of secrecy explains why the issue of covert aerosol Geoengineering (chemtrails) is a taboo topic to be degraded to the status of “conspiracy theory” by a matrix of complicit bureaucrats at every opportunity. This is why the FAA, NOAA, NASA and your local TV “meteorologist” refuse to employ scientific observation when asked to comment on an unusual sky filled with bizarre aircraft spraying.

“The gradually accumulating evidence of positive results from efforts at weather modification led the Committee on Atmospheric Sciences of the National Academy of Sciences, in November 1963, to appoint a Panel on Weather and Climate Modification “to undertake a deliberate and thoughtful review of the present status and activities in this field and of its potential and limitations for the future.” – Page 6.

“The Evolution of a Weather Modification R&D program Into a Military Weapons System”

milton-leitenberg-mug-sm.jpg
This Federation of American Scientists document is a 1986 Critique of the 1966 NASA initiative where the author (Leitenburg?) characterizes NASA’s Weather Mod Program as hijacked into a military weapons system. This document is one of several found in: Studies of Military R&D and Weapons Development by Milton Leitenberg, Senior Research Scholar – Center for International and Security Studies, University of Maryland, College Park. Leitenburg is author of several books. (Amazon Books)
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/st...-future-goal-engineered-climate-modification/
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Doesn’t mean they did it.
There are some fucking crazy military documents...like using bats with bombs strapped to them to burn down Tokyo.
They tested it...and burned down their own airfield...lolol.

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Even if they did, climate change is happening...and it’s getting worse...so what are we going to do about it?
Also I have never seen a chemtrail...if they were so prevalent then it would be quite obvious don’t you think?
It’s called a contrail...basic science.

"Contrails, or condensation trails, are the linear clouds formed by jet engines as they fly in the upper reaches of our atmosphere.
The low temperatures at those heights means that the heat of exhaust immediately crystalizes into ice, forming the fluffy trails we see across the sky.”

"A survey published by the journal Environmental Research Letters polled some of the people who know the most about this area of aviation science: chemists who study contrails and geochemists focusing on atmospheric dust and pollution deposits. Of those scientists, 76 of the 77 polled agreed that there was no secret government spraying program and that contrails are innocent clouds (though we do wonder what the 77th scientist has to say for himself)."

See...you dismiss my source after bitching I don’t supply any...then supplement them with your own conspiracy theories that I am supposed to view with a more open mind than you are willing to give to me or anyone else.
That’s some BS and not how you go about convincing anyone of anything.

And it’s this kind of dumpster fire of a conspiracy theory that convinces morons living in their van to attempt to bomb people through the mail.
Or encourages people to walk into Synagogs and open fire...both on the Jews, but also targeted because they were a refugee resentment organization.
So spreading all your wackadoodle theories of Zionists, George Soros, etc. can and do have negative consequences.
 
Skarekrow said:
Doesn’t mean they did it.
There are some fucking crazy military documents...like using bats with bombs strapped to them to burn down Tokyo.
They tested it...and burned down their own airfield...lolol.

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Even if they did, climate change is happening...and it’s getting worse...so what are we going to do about it?
Also I have never seen a chemtrail...if they were so prevalent then it would be quite obvious don’t you think?
It’s called a contrail...basic science.

"Contrails, or condensation trails, are the linear clouds formed by jet engines as they fly in the upper reaches of our atmosphere.
The low temperatures at those heights means that the heat of exhaust immediately crystalizes into ice, forming the fluffy trails we see across the sky.”

"A survey published by the journal Environmental Research Letters polled some of the people who know the most about this area of aviation science: chemists who study contrails and geochemists focusing on atmospheric dust and pollution deposits. Of those scientists, 76 of the 77 polled agreed that there was no secret government spraying program and that contrails are innocent clouds (though we do wonder what the 77th scientist has to say for himself)."

See...you dismiss my source after bitching I don’t supply any...then supplement them with your own conspiracy theories that I am supposed to view with a more open mind than you are willing to give to me or anyone else.
That’s some BS and not how you go about convincing anyone of anything.

And it’s this kind of dumpster fire of a conspiracy theory that convinces morons living in their van to attempt to bomb people through the mail.
Or encourages people to walk into Synagogs and open fire...both on the Jews, but also targeted because they were a refugee resentment organization.
So spreading all your wackadoodle theories of Zionists, George Soros, etc. can and do have negative consequences.
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i disagree

logically people are likely to resort to violence when they feel there are no other avenues open to them

so if they are constantly brushed off and their legitimate concerns are dismissed by gaslighting liars then they will begin to feel that they are unable to reason with the person

also you don't know that those attacks weren't false flags carried out right before the elections to try and demonise conservatives
 
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  • 6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
  • 6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
  • 6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
  • 20030085296 – November 2, 2001 – Hurricane and tornado control device
  • 6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
  • 6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
  • 6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
  • 6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
  • 6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
  • 6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
  • 6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
  • 6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method And Device For Cleaning The Atmosphere
  • 0056705 A1 – March 17, 2005 – Weather Modification by Royal Rainmaking Technology
  • 6890497 – May 10, 2005 – Method For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
  • 2446250 – January 4, 2007 – A dust or particle-based solar shield to counteract global warming
  • 7965488 – November 9, 2007 – Methods Of Removing Aerosols From The Atmosphere
  • 8048309 – August 28, 2008 – Seawater-Based Carbon Dioxide Disposal
  • 20100072297 – September 24, 2008 – Method for controlling hurricanes
  • 8012453 – October 27, 2008 – Carbon Sequestration And Production Of Hydrogen And Hydride
  • 7645326 – January 12, 2010 – RFID environmental manipulation
  • 7655193 – February 2, 2010 – Apparatus For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
  • 8079545 – December 20, 2011 – Ground based Manipulation and Control of Aerial Vehicle during nonflying operations
  • 0117003 – October 5, 2012 – Geoengineering Method Of Business Using Carbon Counterbalance Credits – alternate link
  • 8373962 – February 12, 2013 – Charged seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants
    https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/
 
kinglear said:
also you don't know that those attacks weren't false flags carried out right before the elections to try and demonise conservatives
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And you do?
You seem to think that is the only possible cause.
Give me a break.

As for workers looking for work, there is kind of an issue with that here right now -
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kinglear said:
people get technologies patented so that they can use them:

United States Patent and Trademark Office
  • 0462795 – July 16, 1891 – Method Of Producing Rain-Fall
  • 1103490 – August 6, 1913 – Rain-Maker
  • 1225521 – September 4, 1915 – Protecting From Poisonous Gas In Warfare
  • 1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists
  • 1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft
  • 1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs
  • 1892132 – December 27, 1932 – Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts
  • 1928963 – October 3, 1933 – Electrical System And Method
  • 1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment
  • 2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987
  • 2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture
  • 2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator
  • 2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device
  • 2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather
  • 2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
  • 2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
  • 2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
  • 2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
  • 2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
  • 2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
  • 2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
  • 2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields
  • 2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
  • 2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
  • 2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
  • 3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator
  • 3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
  • 3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions
  • 3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System
  • 3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
  • 3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
  • 3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
  • 3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding Apparatus
  • 3338476 – August 29, 1967 – Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers
  • 3410489 – November 12, 1968 – Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump
  • 3429507 – February 25, 1969 – Rainmaker
  • 3432208 – November 7, 1967 – Fluidized Particle Dispenser
  • 3441214 – April 29, 1969 – Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds
  • 3445844 – May 20, 1969 – Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System
  • 3456880 – July 22, 1969 – Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere
  • 3518670 June 30, 1970 – Artificial Ion Cloud
  • 3534906 – October 20, 1970 – Control of Atmospheric Particles
  • 3545677 – December 8, 1970 – Method of Cloud Seeding
  • 3564253 – February 16, 1971 – System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas
  • 3587966 – June 28, 1971 – Freezing Nucleation
  • 3601312 – August 24, 1971 – Methods of Increasing The Likelihood oF Precipitation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region
  • 3608810 – September 28, 1971 – Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions
  • 3608820– September 20, 1971 – Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein
  • 3613992 – October 19, 1971 – Weather Modification Method
  • 3630950 – December 28, 1971 – Combustible Compositions For Generating Aerosols, Particularly Suitable For Cloud Modification And Weather Control And Aerosolization Process
  • USRE29142 – May 22, 1973 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
  • 3659785 – December 8, 1971 – Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material
  • 3666176 – March 3, 1972 – Solar Temperature Inversion Device
  • 3677840 – July 18, 1972 – Pyrotechnics Comprising Oxide of Silver For Weather Modification Use
  • 3722183 – March 27, 1973 – Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere
  • 3769107 – October 30, 1973 – Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke
  • 3784099 – January 8, 1974 – Air Pollution Control Method
  • 3785557 – January 15, 1974 – Cloud Seeding System
  • 3795626 – March 5, 1974 – Weather Modification Process
  • 3808595 – April 30, 1974 – Chaff Dispensing System
  • 3813875 – June 4, 1974 – Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmosphere
  • 3835059 – September 10, 1974 – Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore
  • 3835293 – September 10, 1974 – Electrical Heating Apparatus For Generating Super Heated Vapors
  • 3877642 – April 15, 1975 – Freezing Nucleant
  • 3882393 – May 6, 1975 – Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere
  • 3896993 – July 29, 1975 – Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds
  • 3899129 – August 12, 1975 – Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification
  • 3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation
  • 3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion
  • 3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator
  • 3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator
  • 3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation
  • 3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
  • 4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes
  • RE29,142 – February 22, 1977 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
  • 4035726 – July 12, 1977 – Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al
  • 4096005 – June 20, 1978 – Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition
  • 4129252 – December 12, 1978 – Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials
  • 4141274 – February 27, 1979 – Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser
  • 4167008 – September 4, 1979 – Fluid bed chaff dispenser
  • 4347284 – August 31, 1982 – White cover sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays
  • 4362271 – December 7, 1982 – Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure
  • 4402480 – September 6, 1983 – Atmosphere modification satellite
  • 4412654 – November 1, 1983 – Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
  • 4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
  • 4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification
  • 4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System
  • 4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
  • 4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
  • 4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
  • 4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds
  • 4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal
  • 4686605 – August 11, 1987 – HAARP Patent / EASTLUND PATENT – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
  • 4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol
  • 4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
  • 4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer
  • 4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
  • 4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
  • 4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog
  • 4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation
  • 4948257 – August 14, 1990 – Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing
  • 1338343– August 14, 1990 – Process and Apparatus for the production of intense artificial Fog
  • 4999637 – March 12, 1991 – Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
  • 5003186 – March 26, 1991 – Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming
  • 5005355 – April 9, 1991 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
  • 5038664 – August 13, 1991 – Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface
  • 5041760 – August 20, 1991 – Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration
  • 5041834 – August 20, 1991 – Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted
  • 5056357 – October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium
  • 5059909 – October 22, 1991 – Determination of particle size and electrical charge
  • 5104069 – April 14, 1992 – Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft
  • 5110502 – May 5, 1992 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
  • 5156802 – October 20, 1992 – Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics
  • 5174498 – December 29, 1992 – Cloud Seeding
  • 5148173 – September 15, 1992 – Millimeter wave screening cloud and method
  • 5242820 – September 7, 1993 – Army Mycoplasma Patent Patent
  • 5245290 – September 14, 1993 – Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect
  • 5286979 – February 15, 1994 – Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
  • 5296910 – March 22, 1994 – Method and apparatus for particle analysis
  • 5327222 – July 5, 1994 – Displacement information detecting apparatus
  • 5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding
  • 5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
  • 5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
  • 5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
  • 5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
  • 5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption
  • 5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
  • 5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
  • 5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
  • 5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
  • 5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation
  • 5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather
  • 5800481 – September 1, 1998 – Thermal excitation of sensory resonances
  • 5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions
  • 5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
  • 5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
  • 5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
  • 6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
  • 6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
  • 6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
  • 6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
  • 6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
  • 6315213B1 – June 21, 2000 – Method of modifying weather
  • 6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
  • 6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
  • 6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
  • 20030085296 – November 2, 2001 – Hurricane and tornado control device
  • 6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
  • 6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
  • 6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
  • 6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
  • 6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
  • 6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
  • 6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
  • 6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method And Device For Cleaning The Atmosphere
  • 0056705 A1 – March 17, 2005 – Weather Modification by Royal Rainmaking Technology
  • 6890497 – May 10, 2005 – Method For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
  • 2446250 – January 4, 2007 – A dust or particle-based solar shield to counteract global warming
  • 7965488 – November 9, 2007 – Methods Of Removing Aerosols From The Atmosphere
  • 8048309 – August 28, 2008 – Seawater-Based Carbon Dioxide Disposal
  • 20100072297 – September 24, 2008 – Method for controlling hurricanes
  • 8012453 – October 27, 2008 – Carbon Sequestration And Production Of Hydrogen And Hydride
  • 7645326 – January 12, 2010 – RFID environmental manipulation
  • 7655193 – February 2, 2010 – Apparatus For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide
  • 8079545 – December 20, 2011 – Ground based Manipulation and Control of Aerial Vehicle during nonflying operations
  • 0117003 – October 5, 2012 – Geoengineering Method Of Business Using Carbon Counterbalance Credits – alternate link
  • 8373962 – February 12, 2013 – Charged seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants
    https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/
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And the military would just let the public have the records of this super secret program via the FOIA through the patent office?
Highly unlikely.

Do you know how many things are patented that will never be used or do not ever even work for that matter?
You don’t jump to conclusions you leap.
I’m sure the patent office has time-travel devices too...so what?
 
BTW, my cousin’s wife is a patent lawyer.
There is a ton of nonsense patented.

Besides that...your list of evil patents includes things to measure humidity and whatnot.
Scary!
 
Skarekrow said:
And the military would just let the public have the records of this super secret program via the FOIA through the patent office?
Highly unlikely.

Do you know how many things are patented that will never be used or do not ever even work for that matter?
You don’t jump to conclusions you leap.
I’m sure the patent office has time-travel devices too...so what?
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oh they're using them alright; they are about to admit they are doing it:

David Keith Announces Geo-Engineers Plans for 2018 at 80,000 ft

 
Skarekrow said:
And you do?
You seem to think that is the only possible cause.
Give me a break.

As for workers looking for work, there is kind of an issue with that here right now -
View attachment 45531
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The Phony Labor Shortage And The Simple Economics of What Really Matters

by Tyler Durden
Tue, 06/19/2018 - 18:05
Authored by Jeffrey Snider via Alhambra Investment Partners,

The very idea of a labor shortage is supposed to be strictly an economic concept. No longer. It is now wielded almost exclusively in political terms. Anecdotes about how companies are unable to find workers pepper most commentary on the labor market if only because there is no (none) direct statistical evidence that a nationwide labor problem exists.

In the absence of such data, a plethora of reports on how individual businesses are creatively dealing with the presumed problem is constantly offered as a sort of backup. If there was an actual shortage, no creativity would be required. There is nothing particularly clever about offering more money to workers, both to keep those you have on staff already as well as to bring in new ones if you need them so badly.

It actually argues against the idea.

The other angle for the LABOR SHORTAGE!!! is within the immigration debate. I don’t particularly wish to get into it at any time, but the inadvertent honesty being offered in this one specific instance is particularly noteworthy; this time in the form of a mainstream story about a California citrus and avocado farmer.

Shade will need 50 harvesters for peak season. Right now, he has 25. He’s tried to hire more, but a skilled crew is becoming harder to find: The workforce he’s relied on is aging and he’s having a hard time finding people to replace them.

ABOOK-June-2018-Productivity-Curves-Not-GR-1.png


Sounds a lot like a shortage, except:

Even though he pays well above minimum wage, he’s also lost workers to farms that can afford to pay more. The experienced harvesters at Shade’s farm can make up to $400 a day, he says. The rookies start off at minimum wage and then move up to $200 to $300 a day after a few weeks.

The article’s author makes a mistake by composing his thesis from the comparison between what Mr. Shade pays versus the minimum wage. He pays a lot more than the bare minimum therefore we aren’t supposed to imagine why he’s having problems other than the image of labor scarcity.

That’s nothing more than a false equivalence, however, and ends up proving the opposite point. The correct economic (small “e”) notation is between what everyone else pays versus what Mr. Shade is apparently unable to. The question is never “does he pay a lot?”, rather it is always “does he pay enough?” If he was to increase wage rates, shortage solved.

Thus, it’s not a labor shortage. Economic illiteracy is rampant.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...tage-and-simple-economics-what-really-matters
 
Deleted member 16771 said:
There is practically no greater insult in our society, and it should not be lightly used.
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Hey I agree with most of your posts, and funnily enough agree wholeheartedly with your first point, but this one is some real privileged liberal bollocks. How can you take all the insults towards a person's race, gender, sexuality, and potential disability, and conclude that "racist" is the worst thing someone could direct towards you?
 
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