Trump will win again

Wyote said:
They are openly admitting it now which is kinda funny
Not in a direct way, but if you pay attention to wording it can't be interpreted any other way
Just flat out, pollsters inject bias and manipulate numbers, it's just what they do and have always done
But I mean if you know anything about how data and the system functions you'd already know this
It's just funny to hear newscasters openly discussing it
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Watch the ''stop the steal'' gang use the discrepancy between polls and results to support their treasonous claims.
 
TomasM said:
I love that you look at the betting markets. I'm not a gambler, but analytics are part of my formal education AND those models are incredibly accurate. There's too much money circulating around wagering for them to be incorrect.

I'm not as worried about the candidate responses since I know both sides will keep hating one another regardless of the outcome. I'm more worried about big money creating chaos like we saw with burning cities, looting, theft, and violence in the past. I've known it for quite some time but now Musk has started calling out Soros for his manipulation of all aspect of a countries governmental structures - the U.S. is not his first rodeo. In fact, I heard that he just purchased 200 radio stations across the country and the FCC fast tracked the purchase - that is dangerous given his history.

Everyone be safe and smart today. Exercise your right to vote and treat yourself to something nice today - you never know how tomorrow is going to develop.
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Are there statistic about gamblers betting on the option they think will make them the most money correlating to being more likely to actually vote?
 
niar said:
Are there statistic about gamblers betting on the option they think will make them the most money correlating to being more likely to actually vote?
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In betting markets, NO. The groups that create those models are called think-tanks and they don't share.
 
niar said:
Watch the ''stop the steal'' gang use the discrepancy between polls and results to support their treasonous claims.
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With Musk being absorbed into their fold, we will never hear the end of it
But our system is clearly so broken already, hopefully this will all come out on the other side with better refinement
 
 
Wyote said:
hopefully this will all come out on the other side with better refinement
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This seems like wishful thinking. I know I've been guilty of desiring it, but maybe I've become more of a realist in this aspect of my societal views.

I like the Lord of the Rings movies because it demonstrates human behavior when it goes unchecked with respect to power. Even the best of men fail in this regard, and it requires someone small and innocent, who simply likes to be with his friends and have a pint, to step-up and carry the load to his own demise. It's a beautiful reflection of what we are capable of being but when it really gets down to it Frodo was a statistical outlier. He is an epic hero and it is in his ability to disarm that makes him successful. Still, he was corrupted at the precipice and it took a true friend to help him cross the finish line. Perhaps this is the reason office terms are so important, because a precipice will eventually be reached in every position of power.

My point is that the human condition corrupts even the best of us and so there technically will never be, "the other side." I believe most INFJ's understand it, and wish for normalized stasis but if we had true stasis, none of us would survive.

Apologies for the rant. I've been reflecting on this very thing for over a decade, hoping to find the answer I wanted...
 
TomasM said:
I know, it really sucks.
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I am literally Frodo/Sam so it doesn't suck at all.
What I meant by "the other side" wasn't how you are interpreting it, which is a much wider look at things.
I simply meant that there may be specific helpful changes to our institutions which will help them function better.
That's entirely possible and actually inevitable assuming the whole system doesn't collapse (also a possibility/inevitability)
You may personally find benefit in abandoning hope in order to accept certain things, that's fine.
It's not how I function though. I'm kind of annoying like that.
Eternally optimistic, gameshow host level psychosis right here.
 
Wyote said:
I am literally Frodo/Sam so it doesn't suck at all.
What I meant by "the other side" wasn't how you are interpreting it, which is a much wider look at things.
I simply meant that there may be specific helpful changes to our institutions which will help them function better.
That's entirely possible and actually inevitable assuming the whole system doesn't collapse (also a possibility/inevitability)
You may personally find benefit in abandoning hope in order to accept certain things, that's fine.
It's not how I function though. I'm kind of annoying like that.
Eternally optimistic, gameshow host level psychosis right here.
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Oh, I haven't abandoned hope, I've simply accepted how the world has changed and recognize that it will be a long while before it stabilizes. It's not what I want but, "we can't always get what we want."

Frodo lost his innocents, his friends, and his way of life. The ship literally sailed. That sucks.

Yes, I believe all INFJ's have a Frodo perspective but not all of them have the intestinal fortitude to continue the quest. Being annoying [sometimes] is part of what is required to walk that path and in that regard I must commend you.
 
TomasM said:
I've simply accepted how the world has changed and recognize that it will be a long while before it stabilizes
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However you wanna word it, most people as they age grow cynical, jaded and apathetic.
A lot of my self work has been dedicated to maintaining my childhood innocence and wonder, for better or worse.
That's not to say I don't have my moments, of course.
But yes, I am very much alone. And yet not.
Being a Space Coyote™ is a weird life.
Change will happen in time.
 
TomasM said:
One down year and Ohio has been removed. I had no idea.
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One source's opinion doesn't mean too much.
I feel like there will be a few surprises tonight.
 
May as well have a bit of fun with this. Next year is going to be interesting regardless of who wins.

 
Americans simply refuse to be psyoped. Respect. They will not be governed by Karen from HR.

Total destruction of Kamala, mainstream media, fake pollsters and democrat echo chambers. Next time you want the truth, go to Twitter/X. It was never ever close.

Trump will probably even will the popular vote lol.
 
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