Clinton vs Trump, Trump vs Clinton

Trust me @hush I am well aware of that, I was just expressing my preference for a stable currency rather than an unstable one
 
Milktoast Bandit said:
Milky B for President of the United States of America

"What could possibly go wrong?"
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Get a sticker for your shirt, when you vote 'Derp' this November 8th. Yay America!
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Ok then, lets see what you've got, show us your manifesto!
 
Proof Media Is Working For Hillary To Steal The Election ​


Watch 2:25-3:15.

I was not "paid" for posting that video. But I gifted myself a bar of chocolate. "I have my own ideas."
 
brightmoon said:
Exactly my point, you see something there @CindyLou because you want to see something is there, not because there is evidence to support it. Unfortunately you are just blind the ways Trump will destroy America. If you think he won't be a 100 times worse than she will be you are just deluding yourself. You bring up Anthony Wiener but say nothing of the people Trump has associated himself with like Jeffery Epstein. As a woman you seem to have no issue with how he degrades and demeans women? How many women have to come forward and describe assaults that exactly match the assaults he bragged about? What about his lack of plan, his lack of ideas and his scapegoating of minorities. This is a man who openly mocked a person with a disability who has nothing but contempt for what he perceives to be weakness. It's a fascist mindset. You think this man who has lived with privilege his entire life actually care about the common people? Americans honestly need to wake up.
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http://reason.com/archives/2016/10/26/the-ruling-class

I have no reason to think that Trump would destroy America. I've been around awhile and I've met plenty of people exactly like Mr. Trump. Yeah, they speak like they're on a construction site in private but they can manage their careers, their jobs, and their lives just fine. I also resent that people think she gets treated different because she's a woman and men are mean to her because vagina. It's ridiculous. If anything she is getting treated with kid gloves. Had she been a man she'd have not been trusted to hand in her own evidence and she would have lost her security clearance already.
 
melissa* said:
Ok then, lets see what you've got, show us your manifesto!
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@Milktoast No I mean it you can't just "like" it...lets see what you got
 
I went to a party last night. Yes, there were 4 of us and it went all the way to 10:30pm. It was overwhelming for my introverted self.
That aside, the subject of Trump came up. Unanimously in Australia, on TV, at work, everywhere - Trump is seen as an international embarrassment. It's a frightening thought to Australians in general were he to win.
 
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infj1357 said:
I went to a party last night. Yes, there were 4 of us and it went all the way to 10:30pm. It was overwhelming for my introverted self.
That aside, the subject of Trump came up. Unanimously in Australia, on TV, at work, everywhere - Trump is seen as an international embarrassment. It a frightening thought to Australians in general were he to win.
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He's not going to win...but I don't feel really okey dokey saying that as it's not my country or my election, but having said that, that's the overwhelming perception in the U.K. too.
 
Sure Trump an embarrassment and what about Hillary? Ok lets say the corrupt...person wins. Shell me impeached within weeks.
Anyone who votes for Hillary needs to leave this country. You have no idea what an American is.
 
Phew. I was wondering whether the whole world had gone mad even considering him a viable candidate rather than a clown. The UK and Australia seem to be on the same page.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Sure Trump an embarrassment and what about Hillary? Ok lets say the corrupt...person wins. Shell me impeached within weeks.
Anyone who votes for Hillary needs to leave this country. You have no idea what an American is.
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From my perception of Australians in general, she is not a lot better. But Trump really is seen as a clown...and a frightening one.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Sure Trump an embarrassment and what about Hillary? Ok lets say the corrupt...person wins. Shell me impeached within weeks.
Anyone who votes for Hillary needs to leave this country. You have no idea what an American is.
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^That's why I made a point of saying it's not my county and not my vote...and then I said what the perception is here in the U.K. (You can't dispute that).Notice I didn't give my personal opinion - apart from I don't think he's going to win...anyway I'm keeping well out of it.

Oh well sorry, seems you weren't quoting me anyway.
 
It's not my country and it's not my vote. And I would be annoyed if someone from overseas called a candidate for a presidency for my country a clown. However, this time I am speaking up because the effect of the outcome of the US election will ripple across the world. Too many innocent people will be adversely effected, IMO. We are part of a global community...I don't know, I have a bad feeling about this..
 
infj1357 said:
It's not my country and it's not my vote. And I would be annoyed if someone from overseas called a candidate for a presidency for my country a clown. However, this time I am speaking up because the effect of the outcome of the US election will ripple across the world. Too many innocent people will be adversely effected, IMO. We are part of a global community...I don't know, I have a bad feeling about this..
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No reason to have a bad feeling. Hillary will likely steal the election Shell be impeached but unlike Nixon shell never let go and resign, so shell end up being the first President ever to be thrown in jail. Kaine will end up ruling for ...3 years before losing his second term to a Conservative and the country willl finally begin to heal.
 
Eventhorizon said:
A little bird says an indictment is coming regarding Hillary and the Clinton foundation. Even if shes wins the Whitehouse she wont be in it for long.
Theres also the suggestion the FBI went easy on her regarding the email scandal because they kniw what they have one her concerning this. She really is going to jail for a long long time.
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Looks like your little bird was telling a fib.

What a sly little fox.
 
CindyLou said:
I have no reason to think that Trump would destroy America. I've been around awhile and I've met plenty of people exactly like Mr. Trump. Yeah, they speak like they're on a construction site in private but they can manage their careers, their jobs, and their lives just fine. I also resent that people think she gets treated different because she's a woman and men are mean to her because vagina. It's ridiculous. If anything she is getting treated with kid gloves. Had she been a man she'd have not been trusted to hand in her own evidence and she would have lost her security clearance already.
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I'm not buying not for a second. The argument that his words don't represent his attitudes is completely wrong. Trump apologists try to minimize it as "locker room talk" or "saying mean things" but those arguments do not bear any serious scrutiny. His sexism, misogyny and racism cannot be so easily and glibly dismissed. How many men do actually know @CindyLou that brag about groping women and believe because of their wealth and power it is their right to do so? If anything Hillary has been the victim of sexism throughout this whole election. Tell me what male candidate would be held responsible for the shortcomings of their spouse?
 
Anywhere But Here said:
Looks like your little bird was telling a fib.

What a sly little fox.
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Suppose we will see in the end.
The corruption runs deep with the Democrats. Its hard to imagine anyone being happy about that. But...the world we live in is full of crap, I guess its no surprise.
 
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Milktoast Bandit said:
It can be found here http://www.infjs.com/threads/derail-this-thread.31799/page-19
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"The selfish misconception that induces you to transform into eternal laws of nature and of reason,
the social forms springing from your present mode of production and form of property –
historical relations that rise and disappear in the progress of production – this misconception you
share with every ruling class that has preceded you. What you see clearly in the case of ancient
property, what you admit in the case of feudal property, you are of course forbidden to admit in
the case of your own bourgeois form of property.
Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! "
Ooph! I read the whole damn thing. :-P. I don't agree with comunism, socialism, collectivism, nor individualism...I do believe in family.

You have my vote MilkyB if you can convince my fellow Americans of the importance of family whether born or made...I will petition to adopt you as to give you legal citizenship (lord knows we have political issuance with legal birth certificates, lol) to be our next fearsome leader...who knows, today America, tomorrow the world!! :m029:Bahahahahaha!

**isn't this how folks like Stollin, Hitler, Putan, Bushes and now Trumps must think...?!? Find a cause and convince others there is no other?!?

:-P. Thank you @Milktoast Bandit for being a good bloke and providing us Yanks with some good sense humor in an otherwise fearful time. ❤hugz2U.
 
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