Just so we're on the same page here... My dreams are the only dreams that matters. I have good dreams. I've been told I have the best dreams. People say to me all the time, that my dreams are... how do I come up with these dreams? They just don't get it. I've been dreaming a long time. The people are amazed when they hear of my... they are genius dreams. Great for everyone. Everyone benefits from my genius dreams. And I just say... I tell them, I'm a really good dreamer. They come from my head. I don't know who these people are. They just come up to me when I'm doing... I'm eating corn flakes. The corn flakes I eat are so good. They come from a company. I get them for free. As a gift. People gift me things. I'll play golf and someone I don't know walks up and hands me bowling shoes. For no reason. They say I do a good job. It's amazing what they say I do. They're so happy with what I do for them. And everyone is happy.
You had me going for a moment.
Personally I am more neutral to slightly disproving of Trump but no where to extent that I see people spewing hate, not even Bush gotten that much and people hated him for valid reasons. Centrists and those outside of the loop are watching all this and seeing the obvious that where things have gotten doesn't bode well for the future and "woke" is really another cult. I am very doubtful these people want there to be others of difference instead are forcing everyone else to adapt to their lines of thinking or be done away with including on the job and it is particularly bad in education. In the end the collapse is going to happen as society is too fractured and people are unwilling to seek much less work things out in a balanced manner.
A lot of 'woke' people have their heart in the right place. All it really means is 'We want people to be treated fairly and we dislike abuse of power.'
How it manifests, especially by some extreme elements can be different but their core ideals aren't so outrageous.
That said, like with Trump supporters the more extreme elements need to be challenged. Suggesting if we killed all the old rich white men we'd suddenly live in a utopia... No, humans don't work that way.
And we mustn't be afraid to call out people we agree with if they're actively suggesting harming others or discriminating against them.
It gets a bit grey in the current situation though were whichever decision people make - there will be suffering.
Which is why I have my hierarchy of least suffering which I use to guide my decisions.
When there are no good options, choose the least bad. The one with the least death and least suffering.
And any ideology that isn't self-supporting will eventually collapse. The world will turn and it will be forgotten.
Its why right and left extremists need to be fought so there is always a moderate option - because given the choice people will choose calm peace and diplomacy. If endless war were possible we'd still be fighting, but people get tired and when they do, they seek stability and sense.
Extremes need another extreme to balance against and say - "At least we aren't THEM!"
Take away one extreme and give a moderate option and people will want peace. Constant anger is tiring and people have better things to do.