Expose the Anti-Trump movement.

[invisible]

@Stu liking this only embolden the fantasy world. I wish you could understand this and not promote it.
@invisible unfortunately we have reached an impasse. You want to promote lies and have me accept them and take responsibility for them. Of course no sane person would do this.
Also, I seem to for whatever reason have an effect on you that has a negative phycolgical effect on you. I strongly suggest that for your own health you block me.
Beyond that I will no longer be responding to you but I will continue to post as I see fit. I only ask you make your best effort to keep the thread on track.
Best of luck to you and I hope you get better soon.

This is another case when you are attacking someone rather than dealing with their arguments. You are attacking me personally by claiming that my psychological state is related to the validity of my arguments. My psychological state has nothing to do with the validity of anything that I have said. No matter how crazy I could be, a clear and rational argument I made would still be clear and rational. You are making an irrational ad hominem argument by attacking me in this way.

There's something wrong with your posting. You constantly post irrational ad hominem style arguments. I don't know why you can't admit it. All that is clear is that you either don't know anything about logic, or you dont care about logic. You are contented posting irrational garbage. Why you think that this contributes anything meaningful or helpful to the forum is a mystery. You aren't contributing anything meaningful to the forum, but that doesn't matter to you. All that matters to you is that you keep posting irrational ad hominem garbage. You don't want to learn, listen, discuss, or truly interact and exchange ideas with anyone on a genuine level. You just want to keep sharing your highly irrational "opinions". I hope you're having fun with it, because I don't think anyone else is.

 

[Stu]

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_21017.pdf

 

[Stu]

4. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: ‘the Bowling Green massacre shows why we need Donald Trump’s executive order on immigration?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_21017.pdf

 

[wolly.green]

Expose the anti-Trump movement for what they are.
This thread is about showing the hypocrisy, lies and character smears many choose to implement with the intent of trying to damage the image of the 45th President of the United States of America's work and ultimately what legacy he will leave behind.

Its hardly surprising there are lies about Trump circulating through mainstream media; this happens all the time. Without exception. Trump is not getting it worse, although he is getting much more negative press coverage for his sexist and racist comments; even though they make next no difference to anything.

Hes a mixed bag. There are a few things I like about him, but I do find him mostly frighting. For example, he wants to close parts of the internet off to prevent ISIS from attracting recruits. He says that “I’m not talking about closing the Internet, I’m talking about closing parts of the Internet where ISIS is.” But this is literally ALL of the internet! He could be using his control for good, but I doubt it.

This thread is only for related thoughts, stories, happenings found in the world and your own thoughts related to this sickness that has taken over many a lazy mind in the world.

This sickness is not new. Its old, and it happens every time there is a run up to election.

 

[cptawesome]

Expose the anti-Trump movement for what they are.
This thread is about showing the hypocrisy, lies and character smears many choose to implement with the intent of trying to damage the image of the 45th President of the United States of America's work and ultimately what legacy he will leave behind.

This thread is only for related thoughts, stories, happenings found in the world and your own thoughts related to this sickness that has taken over many a lazy mind in the world.

Most recently and to start the thread, Rahm (one of Obama's thug lackies) decided to open his mouth and use it to attack Trump. He was promptly corrected as can be seen in the attached video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5295767458001/?#sp=show-clips

The anti-trump protests have setback the unity that this country supposedly found under Obama. It stems back to his inability to handle nuclear codes and his lack of political correctness for democrats. P.S. There is nothing smart about being wise. Wisdom is knowing right from wrong. Knowledge is knowing right and wrong.

 

[Eventhorizon]

Its hardly surprising there are lies about Trump circulating through mainstream media; this happens all the time. Without exception. Trump is not getting it worse, although he is getting much more negative press coverage for his sexist and racist comments; even though they make next no difference to anything.

Hes a mixed bag. There are a few things I like about him, but I do find him mostly frighting. For example, he wants to close parts of the internet off to prevent ISIS from attracting recruits. He says that “I’m not talking about closing the Internet, I’m talking about closing parts of the Internet where ISIS is.” But this is literally ALL of the internet! He could be using his control for good, but I doubt it.



This sickness is not new. Its old, and it happens every time there is a run up to election.

Dude....
If you are going to make destructive comments against someone I would ask that you back them up.
Please provide one quote from Trump that is racist. Just one is all I am asking for.

 

[Eventhorizon]

The anti-trump protests have setback the unity that this country supposedly found under Obama. It stems back to his inability to handle nuclear codes and his lack of political correctness for democrats. P.S. There is nothing smart about being wise. Wisdom is knowing right from wrong. Knowledge is knowing right and wrong.

How do you feel about this unity of which you speak? I think the opposite. No President in history has ever divided this country to the extent Obama did. While this isn't a thread about Obama, I find it odd anyone thinks of Obama as a unifier.

 

[88chaz88]

How do you feel about this unity of which you speak? I think the opposite. No President in history has ever devided this country to the extent Obama did.

You are aware that the US had a civil war, right?

 

[j654dgj7]

Please provide one quote from Trump that is racist. Just one is all I am asking for.

Here's a few examples:

- DOJ sued Trump for not renting apartments to black people. Twice. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html)

- In 1992, New Jersey sued Trump for $200,000 for removing black dealers from his casino. John O'Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino wrote an quoted Trump:

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

- Trump refused to condemn the KKK during the campaign because he claimed he did not know who they were. After the interview, Trump complained about his ear-piece (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...marco-rubio-david-duke-ku-klux-klan/81101906/)

EDIT: I found this and more seconds after Googling "Donald Trump racist"

 

[Eventhorizon]

Here's a few examples:

- DOJ sued Trump for not renting apartments to black people. Twice. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html)

- In 1992, New Jersey sued Trump for $200,000 for removing black dealers from his casino. John O'Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino wrote an quoted Trump:

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

- Trump refused to condemn the KKK during the campaign because he claimed he did not know who they were. After the interview, Trump complained about his ear-piece (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...marco-rubio-david-duke-ku-klux-klan/81101906/)

EDIT: I found this and more seconds after Googling "Donald Trump racist"

These are better examples than anyome else has ever provided so thank you for that. Regarding the DOJ accusations, I see it was settled without ever finding Trump guilty or Trump admitting guilt. Regarding O'Donnell, that's one person saying another person has said something with no proof. Both are then irrelevant as they prove nothing at all.
Regarding Trump not denouncing the kkk support? Not his responsibility to denounce anyone who announces support for him. If a serial killer comes forward and says "I love and support Trump! We killed people together! " It's as relevant as what you have provided here.
Thank you again though.

 

[Eventhorizon]

You are aware that the US had a civil war, right?

Touche. Acknowledged. You are correct in that example.
I'll rephrase thanks to you. No President has divided the country to the extent Obama has since the civil war ended.

Oh wait.... what President divided the country around the time of the civil war and how did they do it... out of curiosity?

 

[j654dgj7]

These are better examples than anyome else has ever provided so thank you for that. Regarding the DOJ accusations, I see it was settled without ever finding Trump guilty or Trump admitting guilt..

Why would Trump settle if he was completely innocent?

Regarding O'Donnell, that's one person saying another person has said something with no proof. Both are then irrelevant as they prove nothing at all.

That's a stretch, don't you think? The guy was president, and (to my knowledge) Trump never commented on it. I mean, he commented on Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart breaking up

Regarding Trump not denouncing the kkk support? Not his responsibility to denounce anyone who announces support for him. If a serial killer comes forward and says "I love and support Trump! We killed people together! " It's as relevant as what you have provided here.

You're right - he doesn't control who supports him, but it is suspicious that he doesn't denounce them, especially when he's running for president and claims to represent everyone.
Example: If the Ku Klux Klan said "Eventhorizon is great! We love him because he represents us completely. If you don't agree with him, you're a traitor" wouldn't you say you don't agree with them? They do discriminate against minorities and used to hang black people in broad daylight ...

 

[j654dgj7]

Oh wait.... what President divided the country around the time of the civil war and how did they do it... out of curiosity?

I'm gonna put the blame on Southern Democrat James Buchanan. He tried to unite the country by trying to pander to both sides on the slavery issue. It ended up dividing the country even more. Then he signed the Kansas-Nebraska Act which only made things worse. It's a long story, but as I see it, Lincoln inherited the civil war.

 

[Eventhorizon]

Why would Trump settle if he was completely innocent?



That's a stretch, don't you think? The guy was president, and (to my knowledge) Trump never commented on it. I mean, he commented on Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart breaking up



You're right - he doesn't control who supports him, but it is suspicious that he doesn't denounce them, especially when he's running for president and claims to represent everyone.
Example: If the Ku Klux Klan said "Eventhorizon is great! We love him because he represents us completely. If you don't agree with him, you're a traitor" wouldn't you say you don't agree with them? They do discriminate against minorities and used to hang black people in broad daylight ...

Having been in court myself sometimes it's just easier to compromise. As a person in thr public eye and who has money, Trump gets sued left and right. Everyone with that type of money does. If a piece of a building they own hits someone, it can be said they are being sued for it even though we all know it's an indirect matter.

Because someone is something, President, General, Head Chef, police officer, Judge... it doesn't make them anymore trust worthy in my mind. A person is as trust worthy as their actions. Maybe the guy O'Donnell is a very trust worthy person. Then again maybe not. I can't say, can you truly?

Whether I took the time to denounce what someone said about me would depend on a huge amount of factors. In part, exactly what was said. I dont think the kkk said anything like Hey Trump and our group hang out and talk about how much we hate other races all the time."

I would like Trumps own words that have been accurately recorded.

 

[Eventhorizon]

I'm gonna put the blame on Southern Democrat James Buchanan. He tried to unite the country by trying to pander to both sides on the slavery issue. It ended up dividing the country even more. Then he signed the Kansas-Nebraska Act which only made things worse. It's a long story, but as I see it, Lincoln inherited the civil war.

It could be argued than that Lincon promoted division is what you are saying?

 

[j654dgj7]

Having been in court myself sometimes it's just easier to compromise. As a person in thr public eye and who has money, Trump gets sued left and right. Everyone with that type of money does. If a piece of a building they own hits someone, it can be said they are being sued for it even though we all know it's an indirect matter.

Fair enough. That does lend Trump the benefit of the doubt. However, don't you think it's sort of suspicious that he has been to court so many times?

Because someone is something, President, General, Head Chef, police officer, Judge... it doesn't make them anymore trust worthy in my mind. A person is as trust worthy as their actions. Maybe the guy O'Donnell is a very trust worthy person. Then again maybe not. I can't say, can you truly?

Well, I mean, Trump did hire him ...

Whether I took the time to denounce what someone said about me would depend on a huge amount of factors. In part, exactly what was said. I dont think the kkk said anything like Hey Trump and our group hang out and talk about how much we hate other races all the time."

I would like Trumps own words that have been accurately recorded.

Still, it's very unsettling that Trump didn't say that he was uncomfortable with their endorsement.
I'm old enough to remember the Jeremiah Wright ordeal that Obama had to go through. He was pummeled by the republicans, and they demanded he denounce him over and over again until he did.
Wright was not a good person, but he's no KKK ...

 

[j654dgj7]

It could be argued than that Lincon promoted division is what you are saying?

Well, yeah, a lot of people say that. I don't think he could've stopped the secession from happening, is all.

 

[Eventhorizon]

Fair enough. That does lend Trump the benefit of the doubt. However, don't you think it's sort of suspicious that he has been to court so many times?



Well, I mean, Trump did hire him ...



Still, it's very unsettling that Trump didn't say that he was uncomfortable with their endorsement.
I'm old enough to remember the Jeremiah Wright ordeal that Obama had to go through. He was pummeled by the republicans, and they demanded he denounce him over and over again until he did.
Wright was not a good person, but he's no KKK ...

Good point on Wright, however Obama attended his sermons on multiple occasions if I remember correctly. Trump never attended anything the kkk sponsored to my knowledge.

Trump did hire O'Donnell? I don't know that he did but let's say he did. Does that make Trump responsible for his truthfulness now?

Suspicious he's had so many lawsuits against him? Not at all. His position in the world attracts lawsuits. It's not unique to him at all.

 

[Stu]

It would appear that it is the intelligence community that is leading the anti-trump movement....I wonder what is their motivation, could it be....Patriotism?

 

[Stu]